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Post by Clint on Jun 16, 2007 20:50:23 GMT
Weird. I thought he got the idea for that thread form JBorchidguy's thread. Not that it matter's what so ever.
I noticed with some herbicides, if you cut the grass first then spray it works faster/better. Just an idea. We had an infestation or some kind of ivy years ago and that's the only way we killed it long term.
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Post by pitcherfreak on Jun 17, 2007 6:41:27 GMT
Don't worry the green slimes gone got new plastic. If you're spraying with glyphosate (roundup) it may take a few weeks for the grass to die especially now it's getting colder (it's linked to growth rate) there are faster options like Spray Seed in aussie, it's more poisonous though (wouldn't use it myself) repraying with glyphosate won't really speed up the kill too much. Before you put the plastic on you might like to think about using a product called polyguard tape which sticks to the frame and stops the frame rubbing on the plastic, some people use carpet scraps and others don't bother with either. Need such a big house can never have too many CP's ;D I would have thought any grower would know that . Seriously though I was thinking of sectioning off part of the house for plants that need heating, could never afford to heat all the house.
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Post by stevestewart on Jun 17, 2007 11:25:05 GMT
Matti, You mention breaking a drill bit. Are you using "self tapping" screws? If not, you will save a good deal of time and money doing so. It has been a long time, but I don't recall needing to drill many holes (with drill bits) when I built my greenhouses. Just a thought, if it is not too late. (and never mind if this idea does not apply ) Take care, Steven Stewart
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Post by matti on Jun 17, 2007 11:46:07 GMT
Matti, You mention breaking a drill bit. Are you using "self tapping" screws? If not, you will save a good deal of time and money doing so. It has been a long time, but I don't recall needing to drill many holes (with drill bits) when I built my greenhouses. Just a thought, if it is not too late. (and never mind if this idea does not apply ) Take care, Steven Stewart G'day Steve, How is it going? herd from Alan latley?, he says you have the best bicalcarata's around, mine can't be far off. ;D Um.... I used galvanised tech screws to screw the frame and hoops togeather (see below) and I used 70mm by 10mm O/D carrige bolt, (see below again), the bolts were used to attach each hoop to the top brace they did have a little square bit near the head like shown in the picture, I just took my angle grinder and ground thoes out till that part was round and I ground the grooves of the top of the bolt and then spray painted them so they don't rust, I still need to get up there with my grinder and cut the top brace shorter, I used 35mm O/D 2mm w/t hot dipped galvanised steel tubing for this project. I used a caulk called fuller caulk in colors, light grey color, I used this to fill up any gaps were the peices of the frame joined so they would not tear holes in my film. @ pitcher freak, yes I used glyphosate (round up) that we had laying around..we have quite a few things laying around out there,old racing cars,roofing sheets,timber,wire,barbed wire,fence posts,machinery, we have a hugh patch of grass trees even old abspestos sheets!, the particular chemical I used was called whipe out 360, when I was out there the otherday the grass was already starting to turn yellow, thanks for the idear about the polyguard tape, I believe I can get that from Redpath. This Greenhouse is huge, I can fit my biggest tractor in there with total ease, I need it so I can stand on the roof to get to my working area. www.gohvacrsupply.com/images/products/304634.giftech screws store.hamiltonmarine.com/prodimg/F-CG.JPGcarrige bolts www.au.hbfullerstore.com/FullerstoreAU/en_AU/images/p_caulkcolour.jpgCaulk Don't forget guys, I have done everything on my own so far and probably will do everything elce on my own except for attaching the film, goes to show what you can do if you put a little thought and enginuity into it. Matti ;D
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Post by matti on Jun 18, 2007 13:16:02 GMT
Ok, I went to Bunnings today on the way to TAFE, I got 4 litres of british paints all in one white,Sellys Liquid Nails (on special, $3 something), Grade 316 austenetic (thats marine grade to you) 3mm diam stainless steel cable and some turn buckles and other bits for stabiliser cables.
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Post by jm82792 on Jun 18, 2007 21:23:22 GMT
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Post by pitcherfreak on Jun 19, 2007 0:35:56 GMT
Yep should be able to get it from redpath, we have them here, good company for greenhouse bits. I'm putting my film on partly myself so you might be able to manage. It has to be a still day NO wind, I roll the film over the roof and attach the far end. I then use Dad's tractor and a rope to pull the plastic tight (very carefully) and then pinned the sides of the tensioned end and then slowly cut and pin the roped end of the house. Then I pin the sides of the roof. If you do this alone be very careful with tensioning the plastic (is best on a hot day) not to rip it at the far end from where you're pulling. It is much easier with two people or more but a totally still day is essential (I know the hard way ).
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Post by matti on Jun 19, 2007 20:17:43 GMT
Yep should be able to get it from redpath, we have them here, good company for greenhouse bits. I'm putting my film on partly myself so you might be able to manage. It has to be a still day NO wind, I roll the film over the roof and attach the far end. I then use Dad's tractor and a rope to pull the plastic tight (very carefully) and then pinned the sides of the tensioned end and then slowly cut and pin the roped end of the house. Then I pin the sides of the roof. If you do this alone be very careful with tensioning the plastic (is best on a hot day) not to rip it at the far end from where you're pulling. It is much easier with two people or more but a totally still day is essential (I know the hard way ). OK. I went and ordered my contoller box yesterday, and my solonoid. got 12 start times on the controller box and it can go from 1 minute to 4 hours. ;D That looks cheap and nasty from the photo but I guess if thats what you want and you just want to piss around with sarracenias then go for it. I am stumped to know how they except to make a profit of that. You get what you pay for. Don't forget, equipment is what costs you the big bux, my water pump for my misting system cost nearly twice of that greenhouse. I went out and bought my controller box (toro TMC 212) and solonoid today, should get the 1 1/4 inch poly pipe next week (40 meters). profigrass.cz/web/graphics/user/TMC212.jpgwww.irritrol.com/images/irt_val_205s_s_lg.jpg@ Pitcher freak, Redpath was the same company that wanted 1 thousand dollars for an exhaust fan... what a nerve. UPDATE: I installed my stainless steel stabiliser cabels today (4 of them). I sunk 4 steel pickets into the ground all the way (almost) then drilled a hole for the 10mm galvanised caridge bolt and attached it to the turn buckel then drilled a 6mm hole in the frame work at each point and put a eyelett hook I think there called through and bolted it up then attached the cable and put some strein on it. Also did some more painting today, and I found a 4 litre full can of over coat (save 50bux) in the shed today, should be good. I did all this on a cold wet day, it was 9 Degrees celcius!. Was out there again today and did some painting of side boards again and started erecting a better fence with a gate, still not finished yet. I had some problems getting the barbed wire through the holes of the steel pickets (barbs stoping them and all) so I got sick of it and I tied the wire to the car's Chassis and drove off and pulled all the wire through the holes till I realised that they were not ment to go through them, oh well. If anyone was wondering there is already over $1 thousand dollars into this project 7/10ths of that spent on an automatic misting system and it's quite a wile of finished yet. ......Back to work tomorrow to pay for this thing, building and detailing 113 doors, repertition to the max!. PS, Stay away from P & N drill bits, they are crappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update, I got my 45 meters worth of 1 1/4th inch O/D poly pipe for the line that leads from the trough to the pump then from the pump to the solonoid. I also picked up some treated pine decking planks for some shelfs, still alot of work to do but it will be worth it.
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Post by pitcherfreak on Jun 28, 2007 5:46:52 GMT
Sounds like me seem to like working to pay for this plastic house. Had a wind storm last week so there's fixing to do as well, still mine's not the only one damaged so it can't be just shonky construction
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Post by matti on Jun 29, 2007 11:37:35 GMT
Yeah I do pitcherfreak, was my birthday today and I spent 5 1/2 hours of it pushing bits of timber through a bandsaw (Labouring job in a joinery, getting harder and harder to find a job as a BM), sound like fun?. Anyways, I did get a new web cam (2007 model) its no were near as good photo quality as my old one (2002 model.... ha ha ha). The pump,controller box, poly and PVC fittings, foot valve, saddles, solonoid,electrical wire are all there.
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Post by matti on Jun 30, 2007 8:52:48 GMT
Well today.... didn't get a whole lot done today as I would of liked, was not feeling to crash hot, so I gave the side boards their final coat of paint, then wile they dryed I went off and started on the watering system, I connected all the fittings (Diagram later...maybe) and then layed 35 meters of 1 1/4th inch poly pipe, I then drilled a hole in the pump shed and put the pipe through and connected it to the pump, then filled the hole in the wall up with cauk (good stuff, also stops the abspestos from getting loose again.
I put some water in the line and fired the pump up, its very quiet and very powerful but I had some air in the line so it would not pump...grrr, I do still have to get some more PVC and poly pipe fittings ect before the plumbing is finished, this has turned out to be the hardest part so far.
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Post by pitcherfreak on Jul 3, 2007 7:03:14 GMT
Looks like a good setup, wouldn't mind nicking your pump both my house and the one I've been scavanging from had them but their owners wanted to keep them grrr. How much did you pay for it if you don't mind me asking?
A hint,if your pump airlocks easily (my house pump does (mmm yummy river drinking water)) when you install it, if possible, below the level of the water in the trough/tank/pond/etc you are pumping from it helps stop air back flowing into the pump down the line when the pumps off.
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Post by matti on Jul 3, 2007 7:29:13 GMT
The pump was $320, I have a foot valve on the end of the poly pipe (non return valve) so the air can not get into the line, still having problems getting the air out of 35 meters of line as you can understand, any suggestions?.
By the way, I took some more photos for you all, not sure when they will be developed.
I did do some more work on sunday, painting, photos,ect. I installed a gate on the new fence, still need to strain the wire on the fence, that will probably be the last thing I do, the grass had all died all brown and what not but still there even if it was dead and I was getting sick of looking at it, so I thought to myself "I'll torch the sucker ;D ;D ;D" pictures will follow. I have also been painting my decking boards for my shelfing this week.
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Post by pitcherfreak on Jul 4, 2007 0:59:11 GMT
Careful torching grass it burns fast almost torched a whole hedge burning dead grass. With the line try disconnecting either the pump or the foot valve (which ever is highest) and fill the line with water and reconnect it. You may have to bucket it which can be a bit of a drag.
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Post by matti on Jul 4, 2007 7:59:41 GMT
Careful torching grass it burns fast almost torched a whole hedge burning dead grass. With the line try disconnecting either the pump or the foot valve (which ever is highest) and fill the line with water and reconnect it. You may have to bucket it which can be a bit of a drag. Ha ha ha ha!! LOL!!, it still had alittle moisture in it and there was no wind about so up she went!. ;D ;D. With regards to the air in the line, I might just install a T fitting inbetween the pump and the line and install a hex headed black plug. The foot valve I used is hansen, from New Zealand I beleive. ;D www.hydroflow.co.nz/c/products/HFV25_CM.jpgWile I am at it I should tell you that you are going to need a bigger pump than mine if you are going to run a misting system, my pump puts out 30 litres a minute with a max head hight of 20 meters, I can only install 15 misting heads before I loose pressure.
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