is this n. miranda?

[costaricacultivator]

doing a little research i came up with 4 possibilities:
(purists in nomenclature, please forgive my not using caps as should, but as you've noticed, i never do)

1. n. miranda = n. x mixta x n. maxima or (n. northiana x n. maxima x n. maxima)

2. n. mixta superba

3. n. superba

4. n. mixta




are the 4 one and the same?

carlos

[sunbelle]

Carlos,
Are the four one and the same?--No. N. 'Miranda' is most likely N. maxima x N. Mixta, which is N. maxima x(N. northiana x maxima), but Miranda could possibly be N. maxima x N. northiana, a reciprocal crossing of Mixta. Female (seed bearing) parent is listed first in a cross, ie. female x male.

[rsivertsen]

It looks to me to be N. mixta superba.

[sunbelle]

Miranda is not Mixta Superba. The differences become apparent as the plant vines out. The upper traps will lean towards a maxima appearance sooner than Mixta Superba. Also, for it to be Mixta Superba, the plant would have to be mericloned, and mericloning Neps has only been achieved in recent years. N. Miranda is a tc clone originating from seed.

[costaricacultivator]

thanks for the input, folks! so sunbelle, you do think it is a miranda?

here's a better picture of the plant and the pitchers:

[sunbelle]

Most likely. Miranda has been produced by the thousands and sold around the world. Mixta superba can only be propagated by cuttings. Also, Miranda is a faster grower than Mixta.

[costaricacultivator]

so miranda it is! next one:


gentle (aka velvet)?

[rsivertsen]

Without seeing the entire plant, it looks like a N. maxima to me.

[costaricacultivator]

oops, sorry. here are two:

[rsivertsen]

These last few are N. maxima, and if it's the clone I think it is, it should produce male flowers; it's one of my favorites! If it is a female plant, let me know! I had a female plant of this years ago, and don't know where it ended up!

[sunbelle]

I'm not convinced it is pure maxima, and may actually be N 'Gentle'. N. Gentle was sold years ago, when first introduced, as N. maxima Gentle or N. Velvet. The parentage, though proprietary information, is believed by most to be maxima x fusca. not saying it is not a pure maxima, but it does look very much like Gentle (which is male). A side view, or profile of the pitcher might be helpful, Carlos.

[rsivertsen]

It's amazing how different Nepenthes can be when grown under different growing conditions. I had a N. maxima, and grew it under cooler conditions, and brighter light, than Longwood, and it developed this same fuzzy pitcher.

[costaricacultivator]

here's a side view of the pitcher:

[rsivertsen]

Still looks like a standard N. maxima to me!

[pluto]

Looks like Gentle...