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Post by costaricacultivator on Apr 3, 2007 16:20:52 GMT
doing a little research i came up with 4 possibilities: (purists in nomenclature, please forgive my not using caps as should, but as you've noticed, i never do) 1. n. miranda = n. x mixta x n. maxima or (n. northiana x n. maxima x n. maxima) 2. n. mixta superba 3. n. superba 4. n. mixta are the 4 one and the same? carlos
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Post by sunbelle on Apr 3, 2007 20:10:22 GMT
Carlos, Are the four one and the same?--No. N. 'Miranda' is most likely N. maxima x N. Mixta, which is N. maxima x(N. northiana x maxima), but Miranda could possibly be N. maxima x N. northiana, a reciprocal crossing of Mixta. Female (seed bearing) parent is listed first in a cross, ie. female x male.
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Post by rsivertsen on Apr 3, 2007 22:19:09 GMT
It looks to me to be N. mixta superba.
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Post by sunbelle on Apr 4, 2007 12:59:46 GMT
Miranda is not Mixta Superba. The differences become apparent as the plant vines out. The upper traps will lean towards a maxima appearance sooner than Mixta Superba. Also, for it to be Mixta Superba, the plant would have to be mericloned, and mericloning Neps has only been achieved in recent years. N. Miranda is a tc clone originating from seed.
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Post by costaricacultivator on Apr 4, 2007 16:09:59 GMT
thanks for the input, folks! so sunbelle, you do think it is a miranda? here's a better picture of the plant and the pitchers:
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Post by sunbelle on Apr 4, 2007 17:53:46 GMT
Most likely. Miranda has been produced by the thousands and sold around the world. Mixta superba can only be propagated by cuttings. Also, Miranda is a faster grower than Mixta.
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Post by costaricacultivator on Apr 5, 2007 14:38:27 GMT
so miranda it is! next one: gentle (aka velvet)?
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Post by rsivertsen on Apr 5, 2007 15:02:34 GMT
Without seeing the entire plant, it looks like a N. maxima to me.
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Post by costaricacultivator on Apr 5, 2007 15:30:02 GMT
oops, sorry. here are two:
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Post by rsivertsen on Apr 5, 2007 17:29:10 GMT
These last few are N. maxima, and if it's the clone I think it is, it should produce male flowers; it's one of my favorites! If it is a female plant, let me know! I had a female plant of this years ago, and don't know where it ended up!
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Post by sunbelle on Apr 5, 2007 18:52:04 GMT
I'm not convinced it is pure maxima, and may actually be N 'Gentle'. N. Gentle was sold years ago, when first introduced, as N. maxima Gentle or N. Velvet. The parentage, though proprietary information, is believed by most to be maxima x fusca. not saying it is not a pure maxima, but it does look very much like Gentle (which is male). A side view, or profile of the pitcher might be helpful, Carlos.
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Post by rsivertsen on Apr 5, 2007 21:02:10 GMT
It's amazing how different Nepenthes can be when grown under different growing conditions. I had a N. maxima, and grew it under cooler conditions, and brighter light, than Longwood, and it developed this same fuzzy pitcher.
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Post by costaricacultivator on Apr 7, 2007 17:04:17 GMT
here's a side view of the pitcher:
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Post by rsivertsen on Apr 7, 2007 20:17:16 GMT
Still looks like a standard N. maxima to me!
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Post by pluto on Apr 15, 2007 18:57:40 GMT
Looks like Gentle...
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