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Post by locko on Jul 4, 2007 4:34:45 GMT
These are my only pings I had a big P. primuliflora to start off with but after a while it started producing smaller and smaller leaves instead of bigger ones and within a year it was a goner lucky I cut off plenty of leaves when i noticed its decline and it produced alot of new copies. I had the big one growing in live sphagnum moss so with these plants I used 2 parts peat 1 part sand and they look pretty healthy
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Post by brokken on Jul 4, 2007 18:47:07 GMT
P. primuliflora - so I've heard - is short lived. You can prolong its life by clipping flower stalks.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jul 5, 2007 23:05:08 GMT
Hello CP'ers,
P. primuliflora is a long-lived temperate perennial, though individual rosettes can be rather easy to kill with poor conditions. Most often, people forget to give them winter conditions (several weeks at just above frost temperature) and too much light. Basically, grow them the same way as for Drosera adelae and D. prolifera, but with a bit more humidity and they are un-stoppable. The plants in the photograph appear to getting a little too much light.
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Post by locko on Jul 6, 2007 2:12:26 GMT
ok Dave so reduce the light and put them outside during winter. thanks
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Post by jm82792 on Sept 27, 2007 5:00:03 GMT
Mine has been going for 8 months well since I got it, I has 3 flowers on it right now so as long as it is happy let it flower it may shrink abit. In hawaii I grew it in full sun but in oregon it gets cool 50F and 60% humidity. I found that if you cut up flower stalks then burry them lightly they sprout.
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Post by locko on Sept 27, 2007 7:14:23 GMT
All the baby plants in the picture are long dead. One other baby plant in the exact same conditions in a fish tank next to the one pictured strangely has survived and gotten alot bigger. Only difference was that the soil mix had a lot of perlite and vermiculite in it. It is spring now so with hotter conditions the plant will probably kick the bucket like the rest, crossing my fingers that my P. gigantea likes the windowsill.
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Post by Dave Evans on Sept 28, 2007 3:16:15 GMT
Hi Locko, Sorry to hear about your troubles with P. primuliflora. It can be a bit tricky, but it is the easiest one in its group... Or I should least difficult. I have only seen them growing underneath Atlantic White Cedar trees/bushes. I don't know if this is an association or if they can grow without the cedar trees. They seem to prefer deep shade. Most of the other species in this group can handle some sunlight, but this species is strictly found in the shade of other plants. Most Pinguicula like vermiculite in their soil. However, I would take it easy with this soil componet, since these species are found in acidic to near neutral soils. All the baby plants in the picture are long dead. One other baby plant in the exact same conditions in a fish tank next to the one pictured strangely has survived and gotten alto bigger. Only difference was that the soil mix had a lot of perlite and vermiculite in it. It is spring now so with hotter conditions the plant will probably kick the bucket like the rest, crossing my fingers that my P. gigantea likes the windowsill.
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Post by locko on Sept 28, 2007 7:09:29 GMT
Dave I had no idea vermiculite did anything with soil Ph I knew it added some trace minerals. I put some gypsum in the P. gigantea soil mix so it should be ok with all the vermiculite.
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Post by Clint on Sept 28, 2007 13:27:08 GMT
I've never been able to grow it in anything other that straight LFS or LFS/perlite. This species reminds me a lot of D. adelae.
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Post by Dave Evans on Sept 28, 2007 22:45:38 GMT
Soil for Pinguicula primuliflora: Chopped LFS, peatmoss, perlite + charcoal at 2:1:1-2 ratio. Can add some vermiculite, but it doesn't seem necessary.
Soil for Drosera adelae and D. prolifera: Chopped LFS, peatmoss, perlite + charcoal at 1:1:1 ratio.
They basically need the same lighting levels, but P. p. likes more humidity overall.
I treat perlite + charcoal as one ingredient, I keep the ratio about 60:40 favoring the perlite.
In this soil the Drosera are superweeds, the ping grows fairly well, but I think it could be doing better.
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Post by locko on Sept 29, 2007 0:02:55 GMT
Thanks for your soil recipes Dave I will probably try out the soil for one of my D. prolifera and see how it goes because at the moment they look pretty sad. When I had the Pinguicula primuliflora in just LFS it didn't seem to go too well but again will definitely try your soil mix.
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Post by jm82792 on Sept 29, 2007 4:24:20 GMT
I am growing mine in a heavy peat mix it is growing great : Maybe it is pathetic newbie luck ? It is like 1 year old and it seems to shrink like it is right now but I think it will be okay.
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Post by mannyherrera on Oct 2, 2007 12:52:58 GMT
I grow mine in peat and sphagnum. I keep them sopping wet and in full sun. Sometimes I even pick the baby plantlets out and place them in sarracenia pots. They do just fine. Funny how plants do differently for people in varying conditions.
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Post by pinglover on Oct 4, 2007 1:58:59 GMT
My kid bought one for me as a gift for Mother's Day. I potted it up in a mix of Canadian sphagnum peat, perlite, and horticultural grade charcoal. Ratio was somewhere around 2:1:1. I placed it in an old ceramic casserole baking dish and then placed the whole casserole dish in a ten gallon aquarium in about an inch of water. I, too, keep the medium sopping wet. The aquarium was placed on the floor in front of an eastern window. The plant receives absolutely no direct light but a lot of bright indirect light. It took off. Have you any familiarity with a plant that has the common name Mother of Millions (Bryophyllum spp.)? Here's a photo of one- www.bryophyllum.com/b/articles/id/crenatodaigremontianum.jpgThat's exactly what every leaf on my gift primuliflora did that was touching the medium. I literally pulled about 25 babies off of one primuliflora that I've only had since last May.
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Post by jm82792 on Oct 6, 2007 2:19:34 GMT
Mine are not making plantlets so I am pilling up the media around the ping. I am hoping more more pings.
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