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Post by brokken on Apr 25, 2008 16:32:32 GMT
Hi there, Last year I got a dying plant from Orchard Supply in San Jose, CA. I don't believe that OSH gets their plants from local nurseries, so I suspect that they may have gotten them from a large distributor like Agristar and so I hope that someone may know the parentage of it. All I can surmise is that psittacina is involved. I suspected that the fenestrations maybe the result of minor influence, but the lid shape seems to suggest otherwise. Actual information as to what went into creating this hybrid would be VERY helpful, but feel free to guess at what this might be.
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Post by ICPS-bob on Apr 25, 2008 23:10:51 GMT
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Post by capensis on Apr 26, 2008 0:27:07 GMT
Showing about the cultivar page from the ICPS reminds me...I saw these beautiful hybrid that looked like a flava, but had the top of a leucophylla and the hood was round. Oh, how I want that. It was in the cultivar page somwhere on the site.
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Post by brokken on Apr 26, 2008 1:18:35 GMT
Thanks Bob. I doubt that it is a S x "Scarlett Belle". The hoods are more rounded that the scarlet belle's I've seen - which essentially are S x Wrigleyanas. A side-by-side comparison shows a Scarlett Belle from California Carnivores and to the left of it the plant in question. Differences noted include the aforementioned rounder hood and the propensity to grow lower than the average Scarlett Belle. Also, though not open yet, the flower may yield some clue as to its heritage if it shows a lighter color than the typical red or maroon flowers of leucophylla and psittacina.
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Post by Not a Number on Apr 26, 2008 1:35:17 GMT
OSH usually gets their Carnivorous Plants from Nurseryman's Exchange which is a broker/distributor for Booman's Floral in Vista, CA. Booman's is a huge tissue culture factory that develops their own Sarracenia hybrids. See: boomanfloral.com/and their online store: plantsforkids.com/boomanfloral.html
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Post by rco911 on Apr 26, 2008 2:58:43 GMT
I also think its Nurseryman's Exchange as well... I acquired some CP a few months ago from my local nursery and looks exactly like that. My local nursery gets some CP at bloomrite/NE. Anway I'll try to take photos of what I have.... I asked a friend of mine who is in that department at NE and said it was a wrigleayana.... HOWEVER he did give me a side note about the plants at NE and it could lend a clue to the plants heritage. This is what he says:
"...Keep in mind that any time someone crosses S. leucophylla x psittacina, the resulting plant is S. x wrigleyana. This means not all wrigleyanas are of the same clone. Side note: Nurserymen's Exchange was growing S. (x wrigleyana) x psittacina about a year ago. These have larger 'heads' and are more vigorous. "
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Post by Not a Number on Apr 26, 2008 10:23:41 GMT
Oh and Nurseryman's Exchange also goes as Bloomrite. www.bloomrite.com/about.htmlThe Sarracenia I bought from OSH said "Bloomrite" on the price tag and had a little care tag/flag on it. Instructions were not appropriate for a Sarracenia (watering, fertilization etc): Identified as probably Sarracenia x readii
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Post by gardenofeden on Apr 26, 2008 14:07:34 GMT
brokken, looks to me like there is minor in the mix of your plant
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Post by Alexis on Apr 26, 2008 16:22:45 GMT
Yep, it's got a formosa feel about it.
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Post by brokken on Apr 27, 2008 15:29:29 GMT
The flower just opened this morning. It appears to be a mix of reds, yellows and greens which hints at introgression with one of the green-flowered species: oreophila, flava, alata or minor. Of these, the most likely contributor is probably minor - considering that the flower was very delayed compared to all my others - habits which the other three green-flowered sarras do not share. Along with the fenestrations, this seems to support the idea that this is a clone other than Scarlett Belle. That's just an educated guess though. I'm going to try to breed this with Peter D'Amato's wonderful Sx"Godzuki" (minor x oreophila) cultivar and see what comes of it.
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Post by sarracenialover on Apr 29, 2008 1:16:29 GMT
It looks nice anyway
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