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Post by jumelton on Aug 1, 2007 20:25:05 GMT
Hi, Ive been growing cp for about 5 years now and i want to start growing them from seed . I am Looking for better information on proper lighting for seed trays?
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Post by Michael Catalani on Aug 1, 2007 20:57:06 GMT
That's really going to depend on what you are wanting to grow from seed, and how long you would like them to remain under lights.
For a lot of stuff that stays relatively short and low to the ground for some time, simple fluorescent lighting works well. In the US, you can get a 2- 40 watt tube 4' shop-light fixture from a Walmart type store for about $8. The two 40 watt tubes cost another few bucks.
A nice thing about these type of lights is that they stay relatively cool, so if you have to put the bulbs somewhat close to the plants, it wont dry them out like other lighting methods would.
All nepenthes grow well under fluorescent lights for a long time. The fierce climbers may need more light in order to pitcher once they start climbing, but that will be some time away from seed.
Certain annuals (ie: D. indica) and biennials may not work well under aritificial lights due to needing a lot of light, and the fact that they grow tall relatively quickly.
If you are growing Nepenthes, then 1 4-foot shop light will be able to handle 2 1020 sized trays. For other genera that need more light, you may need to double the number of lights per tray.
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Post by phissionkorps on Aug 2, 2007 9:59:46 GMT
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Post by stevestewart on Aug 3, 2007 0:21:50 GMT
Drosera seed can be started indoors easily and inexpensively. Here is a thumbnail photo of some hybrid Drosera petiolaris started in a disposable strawberry container, lined with plastic wrap and filled one third with milled Sphagnum moss, with seed sown evenly on the surface. The same can be done with the majority of common cp's. Peat and silica sand can be used for your media if you prefer. I place this container on a sunny window sill. These containers come with slotted vents on the sides. Extra plants can then be traded with growers for other seed or plants you want to grow.  Take care, Steven Stewart
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2007 20:29:42 GMT
will the plants that you have growing there grow well in peat?
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Post by RL7836 on Sept 26, 2007 20:37:23 GMT
Drosera seed can be started indoors easily and inexpensively. Here is a thumbnail photo of some hybrid Drosera petiolaris started in a disposable strawberry container, lined with plastic wrap and filled one third with milled Sphagnum moss, with seed sown evenly on the surface. Steve, You got some fantastic germination there! I never got anything like that w/ Lowrie seed. However, I did get close w/ fresh D. paradoxa seed from my own plants. Was your seed fresh? Any idea what % germinated? |
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Post by stevestewart on Sept 27, 2007 11:04:38 GMT
[ Steve, You got some fantastic germination there! I never got anything like that w/ Lowrie seed. However, I did get close w/ fresh D. paradoxa seed from my own plants. Was your seed fresh? Any idea what % germinated? Ron, I am still getting germination, but the majority (80%) germinated about 4 months ago, and the largest of those is just now sending out a flower scape. The seeds were from plants I got from Chuck Lyon as hybrids, and then hybridized myself. I am surprised by the diversity of the siblings. I am getting everything from green orange to deep red plants. A few have white hairy petioles. These thumbnail photos are of two siblings, as they now look, transplanted into 4" pots, all have been grown on my apartment windowsill.   Take care, Steven Stewart |
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Post by stevestewart on Sept 27, 2007 16:49:36 GMT
will the plants that you have growing there grow well in peat? Radjess331, Yes. |
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Post by RL7836 on Sept 27, 2007 19:17:23 GMT
I am surprised by the diversity of the siblings. I am getting everything from green orange to deep red plants. A few have white hairy petioles. One of the reasons I love to germinate seed whenever I have the space & time. Kind-of like a treasure hunt - never really know what you'll get  ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2007 3:39:32 GMT
that fisr pic of yours stevestewart is really awesome....im a sucker for a plant with a black backdrop.....
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Post by stevestewart on Sept 29, 2007 12:15:56 GMT
that fisr pic of yours stevestewart is really awesome....im a sucker for a plant with a black backdrop..... radjess, I'm glad you like my elaborate and secret (black speaker cover just out of focus) with lighting on the plant photograph.  For a different and dramatic effect, I sometimes use my dark blue notebook cover. Unfortunately, I purchased my camera when digital technology was new and expensive, so I can't do close up work with it. Take care, Steven Stewart |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2007 4:41:51 GMT
lol yeah i had a really expensive (600 dollar) cmaera took it to school to get some awesome shots and it got stolen...but i managed to upload a pic of inside a aldrovanda trap on my comp...maybe later i may post that here for everyone to see....its not all that clear more of a greenly fabolous twirl of somethingness.......
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Post by Christer on Nov 11, 2007 18:38:36 GMT
Can seedlings generally be held as more sensitive to high temperatures than more mature plants? I´m planning on growing CP´s and quasi CP´s (at least Sarracenia leucophylla, S.psittacina, Dionaea muscipula, Byblis liniflora, Ibicella lutea and Drosera binata) from seeds and the temperature in the terrarium ranges from 70 at night to 80 in the evening. Should something be done to lower the max temperature by a few grades?
I´m mainly worried about D.binata.
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Post by marcel on Nov 11, 2007 19:47:42 GMT
Binata is the last one I would worry about. It grows in a very wide range of temperatures. Some strains come from very warm locations like Fraser Island (AUS), and others from very cold places like Stewart Island (NZ). I would have more worries about the Sars and the VFT. They all need a cool resting period (below 10 degrees C! ) to survive longterm cultivation. As a mater of fact, seeds will generally not germinate without this cool period.
I am not sure about Byblis. I grow liniflora and gigantea inside in my windowsill. I have never grown Ibicella.
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Post by Christer on Nov 12, 2007 5:46:13 GMT
Ok, good. The resting period is no problem. I already have a place that can accomodate more plants than I can handle at the moment  I´m also stratifying the seeds (much to my wifes pleasure) in our refrigerator. |
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For a different and dramatic effect, I sometimes use my dark blue notebook cover. Unfortunately, I purchased my camera when digital technology was new and expensive, so I can't do close up work with it.
