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Post by nepenthes on Apr 1, 2007 0:27:09 GMT
I still am horrible at rembering names and will allways be. I took these pictures summer of 06, up in Michigan. If some one wants to ID the Drosera for me they can! A bunch of colorless S. purpurea, and Drosera I forget the word for it. These were in a Park in southern MI. Enjoy
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Post by pinglover on Apr 1, 2007 0:57:14 GMT
Where in the UP were you? I'm from up there and we still have property up there that we visit throughout the year. I love the UP.
Your photos appear to be of Drosera intermedia, D. rotundifolia, Sarracenia purpurea, and D. rotundifolia again. Good job photographing them.
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Post by nepenthes on Apr 1, 2007 1:00:42 GMT
Lower, lower part of Michigan. I really want to make it to the UP some time though!
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Post by pinglover on Apr 1, 2007 1:31:48 GMT
Ah, ok. Yes, the upper peninsula is really beautiful. I think you will enjoy the scenery very much when you go. Please consider contacting me when that time comes as perhaps I could arrange to be up there at the same time as your visit. On my property, I have an actual pristine quaking bog and I know where there are others that are also on private properties that we could visit. The owners are very proud of their bogs and will gladly give tours.
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Post by rsivertsen on Apr 1, 2007 1:46:12 GMT
Seems like you have the very rare S. purpurea (gibba) var. heterodoxa! Check to see if they have yellow flower petals! These are very rare indeed! The Drosera are D. rotundifolia and D, intermedia. Nice shots!
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Post by nepenthes on Apr 1, 2007 1:55:32 GMT
They were in a bog, I don't own them, I saw them late in the year when seed pods were developing, but all over that bog, even off the trail (yes I'm a bad person going off the trial at a state park) I saw a bunch of them with no pigmentation.
If I do go back to MI for CP's I will make sure I contact you cause it will be the UP.
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Post by BarryRice on Apr 2, 2007 18:49:04 GMT
It's hard to say if these really are S. purpurea subsp. purpurea f. heterophylla, because in low light pigmentation can fade away. But usually even in such deprived plants you see more pigmentation on the sepals. So your photos are evocative! Maybe......
Cheers
Barry
P.S. I concur on the Drosera IDs.
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Post by nepenthes on Apr 3, 2007 0:45:58 GMT
Thats partially my shadow, along with a couple friends shadows too. Those ones i took a picture of were growing along side some shrubs, out in the field where it was open i found the same colorless S. purpurea. I would show you pictures but thats all I have my old computer was destroyed.
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Post by pinglover on Apr 4, 2007 3:13:40 GMT
I enlarged the photos and I'd say those looked pretty anthocyanin free to me.
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Post by BarryRice on Apr 4, 2007 16:19:26 GMT
They sure do look anthocyanin-free to me, too. But you have to be careful you don't get tricked by "veinless" forms that do have anthocyanin, like this one: Tricky mimic:You can see red only if you poke around the rhizome. By the way, those spots on the pitchers which look red can be deceiving, as dead spots on the pitchers of genuine S. purpurea f. heterophylla look kind of reddish too: Genuine anthocyanin-free plant:I didn't know that S. purpurea f. heterophylla occurred in southern parts of lower Michigan. Interesting. Barry
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Post by nepenthes on Apr 4, 2007 16:36:16 GMT
If you look closely in some of the pictures you can see area close to the rhizome, I cant see any red, nor do I remember their being any red. Thanks for the help.
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Post by rsivertsen on Apr 5, 2007 1:21:27 GMT
The true test will be in the flowers, if they are also yellow (red is the dominant color) then they are indeed the rare heterodoxa form!
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