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Post by jonathan87 on Mar 9, 2021 2:59:45 GMT
Does anyone know the origin of the cultivar D.intermedia Carolina Giant Sundew?
I see some photos with it labeled "D.intermedia Carolina Giant Brunswick Co, NC" and other times I see pictures of them with just labeled
"D.intermedia Carolina Giant"
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 9, 2021 3:29:18 GMT
It's not necessarily a plant with one origin, nor is it an officially recognized cultivar by any means. It's a term meant for any Carolina plants that can exceed 4" in diameter or more, some of which may also produce significantly tall stems.
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Post by jonathan87 on Mar 9, 2021 4:01:26 GMT
It's not necessarily a plant with one origin, nor is it an officially recognized cultivar by any means. It's a term meant for any Carolina plants that can exceed 4" in diameter or more, some of which may also produce significantly tall stems. So either way it's from the Carolina's, correct? |
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 10, 2021 3:52:54 GMT
If it's not from the Carolinas it cannot be referenced as a Carolina plant. A plant with a specific locality attached is probably more valuable though, as opposed to general two-state anywhere label.
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Post by jonathan87 on Mar 13, 2021 4:55:43 GMT
If it's not from the Carolinas it cannot be referenced as a Carolina plant. If that is true then how come a Venus Flytrap named a "Carolina Red Venus Fly Trap"mentions the name "Carolina" in it's name but I see no evidence of it actually being a wild type. Was this plant a not a man made cross? |
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 27, 2021 21:17:00 GMT
All Dionaea are from the Carolinas originally. Whether it was produced in cultivation means zilch, the genetics still originated there, they're still Carolina plants. And there are red-form Dionaea in the wild too.
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Post by jonathan87 on Apr 1, 2021 20:16:26 GMT
All Dionaea are from the Carolinas originally. Whether it was produced in cultivation means zilch, the genetics still originated there, they're still Carolina plants. And there are red-form Dionaea in the wild too. Well you can cross certain wild types of VFT's to create an unnatural looking Flytrap. Example: Get an all red plant from Beach State Park, and cross with an all green VFT from Green Swamp will create an unnatural cross that has never been seen before. To me this in my mind is still an unnatural plant due to human intervention of trying to get a desired trait out that is otherwise not seen in wild populations but I see what your saying. |
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Post by hcarlton on Apr 2, 2021 0:41:58 GMT
For the distance that pollen can travel and the limited range the species has anything crossed between flytrap localities is not in any significant manner "unnatural" (nor, as uniform as Dionaea really is in appearance and function, is crossing two localities going to produce anything unnatural looking; odd morphs really anymore only stem from TC hormone imbalance-induced mutations). And the locality names again have little to do with the influence of people, only where the genetics occurred.
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