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Post by SundeWCitY on Jul 23, 2007 6:12:12 GMT
Hello, today i went to a greenhouse in delta with carnivorous plants and unfortunatly blew the whole paycheque in 10 mins, but it was worth it!! anyways i got some nepenthes and I was wondering if any one has had any luck with N. tomoriana, and N. macrovulgaris? i have not heard of too many people with these nepenthes all i know is that they are lowlanders? or am i wrong...? im kind of cluless lol ! but yeah any tips on the nepenthes would be great thanks so much, I also would like to say thankyou to every one, for bieng so helpful with my never ending questions ;D
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Post by phissionkorps on Jul 23, 2007 7:33:15 GMT
They're both lowlanders. Macrovulgaris is...not so easy. Good luck  |
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Post by Bogiron on Jul 23, 2007 13:11:31 GMT
Hi cndncp,
Do you mind if I ask what state the delta greenhouse is in? I don't live too far from Delta, Pennsylvania so if there's a greenhouse selling CPs there I'd like to know. There's probably a town called Delta in every state.
Thanks,
Gale
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Post by SundeWCitY on Jul 23, 2007 21:26:33 GMT
oh sorry i forgot to mention but i am here in canada, sorry !
oh and thanks phissionkorps for the info!
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Post by Dave Evans on Jul 24, 2007 3:08:40 GMT
N. macrovulgaris is not a lowlander this is bogus information. On Mount Kinabalu this species is found growing just below and next to N. rajah which can also be rather difficult to cultivate due to its odd soil chemistry. It also grows in very sandy soil with fantastic drainage, so add extra perlite to the soil when mixing it. And use tall pots. This species is actually easy to grow  when cultivated correctly.
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Post by phissionkorps on Jul 24, 2007 3:42:19 GMT
Macrovulgaris is found from 300-1200 m. Clarke lists 300-800 m. I would say that qualifies as lowland, with the upper part of its range being intermediate/barely out of lowland
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Post by Dave Evans on Jul 24, 2007 6:58:29 GMT
Well, if you want to grow it as a lowlander, it will prove to be more difficult. The idea is to give information that will help cultivators, not possibly hinder. N. macrovulgaris doesn't like heat all the time and it does grow better when it gets nice cooling at night. Nothing extreme. During the winter I place it with the lowlanders, during the summer it grow with the highlanders. There are multiple reasons some species tend to be more difficult. There are several species of Nepenthes which grow exclusively on poisonous ultramafic soil. I think these plants actually use these poisons to boost their immune systems. It is not as though they need ultramafic (or limestone) soil in cultivation, but it is important to understand that they have one less thing in their favor when they are not growing in ultramafic (or limestone) soil.
All the examples I have seen indicate that the species which grow in such soils need even more freely draining soil than the average Nepenthes. Add more perlite or sand or charcoal to the mix. Fluffy Sphagnum can also be a good medium, but these species grow in almost pure mineral based soil in their natural environment, so it would seem Sphagnum would not be the best choice, even though it is extremely useful and could be used I strongly believe you will get better results using a more mineral (SiO2) soil. The main point of using freely draining soils is so the roots can get a lot of oxygen. Obviously, Nepenthes roots need even more oxygen than Sarracenia roots which still need plenty as well.
I have no first hand knowledge about N. tomoriana, but gather it is more of a classic lowlander...
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when cultivated correctly.
