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Post by coline on Jan 31, 2014 22:18:13 GMT
I was wondering about something because of my situation, here moss grows everywhere, over any pot that I have for at least 6 months, you will normally see it completely covered. Normally it is not a problem since people and I consider it attractive as for drosera and sarracenia plants, but now that I'm getting into the world of the little terrestrial utrics like livida, sandersonii, flaccida or blanchetii, I have seen that when planted in the CP mix (in my case sand is substituted by perlite) moss grows around them and they kind of dissappear below, and I see (with U. livida, my oldest adquisition) that they don't like it, but is my thought correct or is it only a lag on growth after a big flowering period as I had here? And now I happen to have U. calycifida & Genlisea violacea plants and I wanted to ask, have you grown them, and which substrate have you used? Moss in other pots
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Post by hcarlton on Feb 1, 2014 6:48:49 GMT
That moss is a weed and can have a choking effect on small plants like Utrics. Be prepared to be doing near constant weeding....
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Post by adelea on Feb 1, 2014 9:29:50 GMT
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Post by coline on Feb 1, 2014 21:33:59 GMT
Thanks, interesting, the thing with mosses is that they are almost impossible to weed, since they take out the substrate when pulled and spawn everywhere in the pot. Adelea, I see you had some living sphagnum, I do have a ton of it, may be a good option since your plant looks really nice and it may be controlled fairly easily. Does it work also the top sand layer sometimes used in other plants?
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Post by adelea on Feb 2, 2014 4:53:00 GMT
A top layer of pure sand just grows mould for me, whereas peat/sand grows less, the most I use is a leucobryum (may have spelt that wrong), as spag struggles with the heat here, leuc mosses also grow more openly meaning more airation.
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Post by adelea on Feb 2, 2014 4:56:55 GMT
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Post by coline on Feb 4, 2014 1:30:39 GMT
Wow indeed it looks really nice! and watching the pot, how deep is it? I think I have that species growing in some pots, does that moss make little "flowers" growing from it?
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Post by adelea on Feb 4, 2014 2:38:33 GMT
The livida is in a 12cm tall pot and its tray fluctuates between 5-10cm, mostly 5-8cm.
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Post by coline on Feb 4, 2014 13:30:55 GMT
You say, the water level in the tray is 5-10cm?
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Post by adelea on Feb 4, 2014 20:14:22 GMT
That tray is 5-6cm deep, but I rotate the majority of my utrics when I have a chance to get to my greenhouse, most of them like fluctuating water tables, and a few like being flooded for weeks at a time (like bifida and uliginosa) but most preffer a high and moderate water table, with short flooding for a few hours to a couple days (such as bisquamata and praelonga)
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Post by sykosarah on Feb 4, 2014 21:31:40 GMT
Aren't there insects that would eat the moss but not be harmful to the carnivorous plants?
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Post by adelea on Feb 4, 2014 22:49:56 GMT
Most likly, but thats a very specialist diet, alot of animals do eat moss but these animals are inpractical or pests in most greenhouses (such as deer, snails or rabbits, snails being the only that comes to mind capable of eating small mosses)
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Post by sykosarah on Feb 5, 2014 2:28:31 GMT
CPs can eat a lot of the insect pests though. Also, I think one of the fungicides mentioned in the cultivation technique thread is dangerous to moss but not CPs.
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Post by coline on Feb 5, 2014 16:46:39 GMT
Yes, tebuconazol kills sphagnum, but i have not seen that it kills normal moss where I have sprayed. I have done it in sarracenia, spraying fungicide before I knew I had an infestation of mealy bugs, which I still have not known of something that kills them, they seem to be inmune to imidacloprid (here I get it in solid grain formulation)
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Post by sykosarah on Feb 5, 2014 16:55:06 GMT
Ever tried the drowning approach?
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