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Post by hcarlton on Feb 25, 2014 1:41:26 GMT
Yeah, it looks like the one tokai x "Carolina Giant" that I got to sprout as well will have the thin leaf shape like the lighter colored one too. Hopefully it'll be a bigger form as well.
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Post by sykosarah on Feb 26, 2014 15:55:52 GMT
How do you get them to cross reliably without risking the flower pollinating itself? I know the male parts can be removed, but how do you manage that without accidentally spilling some pollen?
One of my capensis red sprouts decided to be a show off and have more than twice the red pigmentation of all the others. That, or just one of the seeds out of the 50 is somehow from a different parent. I can't wait until it is big enough to get a good picture. I hope it isn't something wrong with it, but given how red that plant type can get, I am not too worried. I am just wondering why that one is so much more red than the ones that are in the same pot that are more directly under the light.
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Post by hcarlton on Feb 27, 2014 1:15:00 GMT
There's a reason not all of my crosses here I am a 100% certain on. Typically, I can bend the stigmas out of the wayand gather the anthers together and just pull them off, but on occasion, they're not all bunched together and some spillage does result. Though, usually it's easy to tell if something works, I often cross very different looking plants or the flowers give it away.
Which reminds me, turns out that the spatulata 'Tamlin' x tokaiensis may actually be fertile (we'll see if the seeds actually sprout or not), while the reverse only barely produces seeds.
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Post by sykosarah on Feb 27, 2014 16:17:52 GMT
Interesting how what plant contributes to the "female" side and which one contributes to the "male" side can make such a difference.
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 5, 2014 15:43:40 GMT
Update on the D. capillaris x spatulata 'Tamlin': 2 of the plants have now reached maturity. This guy is part of a big mess now, as I try to work out what plants are what. The hybrid between my D. capillaris (formerly Long Arm) and tokaiensis, both directions, is fully fertile, meaning either they are the same species (most likely) or perfectly fertile crosses. Problem is, both look very similar to the sterile D. x tokaiensis that I have, but also similar to pics of certain capillaris forms I've seen. I'm still working on figuring out where the D. capillaris "Costa Rica" fits here, as I normally trust the ICPS ID, the flowers are lighter pink, and though similar, the leaf shape is slightly different, but the similarity between the four forms I have is horribly uncanny.
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Post by sykosarah on Mar 6, 2014 4:09:47 GMT
I always put different species in separate containers, to avoid confusion.
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 6, 2014 4:58:12 GMT
So do I. It's when people send mislabeled plats or seeds, and I grow them out thinking it's something it's not, that the problem arises. I don't grow multiple species in the same pot, unless they're completely different genera.
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Post by sykosarah on Mar 6, 2014 5:00:34 GMT
Reminds me of when I got free seeds as an extra in an order, and they were labelled as drosera, but were actually sarracenia seeds. Don't know how that blunder was made, the seeds don't look remotely similar.
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 10, 2014 15:00:29 GMT
Another hybrid I haven't shared yet, but it's now showing signs of being a true cross: D. natalensis x aliciae
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Post by sykosarah on Mar 10, 2014 15:44:11 GMT
Reminds me a little bit of spatulata.
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 11, 2014 4:37:25 GMT
It looks nothing like spatulata in person though....
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Post by tanukimo on Mar 11, 2014 5:22:19 GMT
The petioles look a bit too short and thick to be spatulata.
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Post by hcarlton on Mar 11, 2014 15:50:29 GMT
We know it's not spatulata, sarah was just commenting on how it looked rather similar. As it grows out fully more of the characteristics of the parents will show up. It's still young, only an inch across at this point.
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Post by sykosarah on Mar 12, 2014 1:35:39 GMT
Yeah, just similarities. Pictures don't always convey the look of plants in person, plus, that close up I can't tell the size/age. I know that many carnivorous plants look extremely similar when they are young; if it weren't for coloration differences, I would have a rough time telling the difference between my little capensis red and spatulata sprouts. Other than color, there are only minor size and shape differences that you have to really look hard for. Then again, my sprouts are very young, they aren't big enough for me to give them blood worms yet. As far as pictures, I haven't taken any of my pitcher plant with color because the pictures always bleach the color out
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Post by hcarlton on Apr 22, 2014 1:06:11 GMT
So it turns out the natalensis x aliciae might just be natalensis, so I have redone that cross, but the reverse seems to have taken the first time around
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