didge
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Post by didge on Jan 28, 2011 9:34:23 GMT
I have been surprised to see that the Brocchinia genus does not have a position here among the list of fully-carnivorous plants. Yet Plachno & Jankun 2005 found that B. reducta does release a sulphur compound (a phosphatase) into its tanks that admittedly with the aid of microorganisms allows it to digest its prey. Brochinnia hechtioides is also carnivorous. Givnish TJ, Sytsma KJ, Smith JE, Hahn WJ, Benzing DH, Burkhardt EL. 1997. Molecular evolution and adaptive radiation in "Brocchinia" (Bromeliaceae: Pitcairnioideae) atop tepuis of the Guayana Shield. Pp. 259-311 in TJ Givnish and KJ Sytsma, "Molecular Evolution and Adaptive Radiation", Cambridge University Press Of course not all brochinnia are carnivorous but not all nepenthes are either.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 28, 2011 10:39:08 GMT
What a curious statement...
Any chance you might be able to provide a list of non-carnivorous Nepenthes? To be honest, I don't know much about Brocchinia, but I know a lot about neps...
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Post by ICPS-bob on Jan 28, 2011 18:08:25 GMT
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Post by didge on Jan 28, 2011 23:48:14 GMT
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Post by peterhewitt on Jan 29, 2011 20:08:51 GMT
didge, in the same article it states that immature plants still exhibit all the trapping mechanisms of a Carnivore. Mutualism only becomes a factor when the plants mature. My personal opinion is that since bat Guano and bird crap is also high in Potassium and Phosphorous, the plants might do this to facilitate flowering. Just my thoughts.
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Post by peterhewitt on Jan 29, 2011 20:11:38 GMT
In N.Rafflesiana Elongata, the bats only roost in the upper pitchers. It strikes me that all these plants do this in the upper pitcher phase. Also the phase where flowering occurs.
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Post by didge on Jan 30, 2011 21:46:26 GMT
I must admit to be somewhat acting the devil's advocate here. With an interest in arboreal myrmecophytes I am aware that although their symbiotic association with ants has almost certainly been the driving force for the initial evolution of the tuberous rubiaceae taxa, there is emerging evidence that fauna other than ants are regularly utilising ant-house plants. This appears to be occurring primarily in climatic regions (e.g. highlands) where insects and especially ants are far less numerous compared to warmer climates. Evolution often finds new uses for its already evolved structures.
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