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Post by flytrapguy on May 27, 2009 7:09:05 GMT
I would like to know what's the largest Dionaea trap you have ever heard of or read of? Also what's the largest flytrap that has been confirmed as true fact in its size? And if possible what the largest flytrap known that's in a picture, on the internet (with an accurate scale beside it). These would be interesting to know. The measurement I'm taking about, and assume most use, is the the longest width measurement of the trap side (Does NOT include the "teeth"). I have a new spring ordered 'B52' that's has caught at least 4 or 5 paper wasps (each where caught in separate traps) with it's many 1 to 1.25 inch early grown spring traps. It's largest trap so far is exactly 1.5 inches long already. Hoping for a 2 inch trap later this year, if not, maybe next year.  |
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Post by jfowler on May 27, 2009 18:46:46 GMT
Living in South Carolina, and having visited many sites in both South Carolina and North Carolina where the plants grow naturally, the largest trap I've seen in the wild is probably around 1.5 inches long. Generally, growing conditions in the wild are not as good as what is found in an artificial, greenhouse setting. You have grasses and other plants competing for light and nutrition, and you have wild critters stomping and chewing the plants on a regular basis. In addition, the weather can play an important role: hail, strong winds, deep freezes, and flooding rain to mention a few. In fact, if there wern't so many VFT's growing in the wild, they would be having a hard time keeping up. However, they have no protection from their greatest foe -- man.
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Post by ICPS-bob on May 27, 2009 20:22:21 GMT
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Post by Aidan on May 27, 2009 21:31:56 GMT
Somewhere around the 2" mark seems to be about as big as traps will get.  |
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Post by flytrapguy on May 27, 2009 22:50:47 GMT
Living in South Carolina, and having visited many sites in both South Carolina and North Carolina where the plants grow naturally, the largest trap I've seen in the wild is probably around 1.5 inches long. Generally, growing conditions in the wild are not as good as what is found in an artificial, greenhouse setting. You have grasses and other plants competing for light and nutrition, and you have wild critters stomping and chewing the plants on a regular basis. In addition, the weather can play an important role: hail, strong winds, deep freezes, and flooding rain to mention a few. In fact, if there wern't so many VFT's growing in the wild, they would be having a hard time keeping up. However, they have no protection from their greatest foe -- man. Thanks everyone, Well, I was really meaning wild or in cultivation the largest known ever (The Confirmed and unconfirmed largest ever known wild or Non-wild trap). That's what I was thinking, that they would be likely smaller in the wild because of more plant competition for light and resources, in pots the soil and water can be changed and altered every year to perfect it's growing conditions. But of course it's a combination of genetics and the environment that plays a role in max trap size, or at least that's what I believe. Breeding many large trap flytraps to bring out max size like Henning von Schmeling did to make 'B52' can bring out large traps more constantly and easily than the typical flytrap in similar growing conditions. Yes, I've seen that 2008 largest fly trap contest and Keehno's 'B52' that's 47mm wide, that's is the largest flytrap I've seen in a picture, on the internet. I wonder why they have not started a 2009 contest? Somewhere around the 2" mark seems to be about as big as traps will get. I've read that B52 can get up to about 2.25 inches can anybody confirm that? I'm guessing Henning von Schmeling may have measured that 2.25 inch trap. Also I've read somewhere that a 4 inch trap has been recorded in the past, I don't know if that's possible or not? I think it was in the wild as well. Edit, I think this is where I read it: flytrapgrowing.info/qanda/I've read a few claims of 3 to 4 inch traps on the internet but I don't know if it's really possible. |
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Post by hmcneal on May 28, 2009 0:26:32 GMT
where are you buying that "B52" from?
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Post by flytrapguy on May 28, 2009 0:36:44 GMT
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Post by Not a Number on May 28, 2009 1:10:12 GMT
When I was up at California Carnivores last year in June there was a huge 'B52' behind glass. Because it was behind glass I couldn't get anything into the image to give a good idea of the size. However they are in a four inch pot so the traps were around the 2+ inch range. Mind you that the 'B52' clone tends to grow its largest leaves in the late summer or fall.  |
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Post by hmcneal on Jun 8, 2009 2:14:32 GMT
i read in a book I bought "secrets to growing buitiful carnivorous plants" that if you put very small non-nutritional stones on the soil it helps you get bigger traps. the theory is that the rocks heat in the day and contiue to heat the roots at night to increase root activity and thusly bigger leaves.
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Post by justjack on Jun 15, 2009 22:10:44 GMT
Duuuuuuuuuuude, little shop of horrors maaaaaaaaaaan.
"It's a cross between a VFT and a butterwort."
I'll eventually will have one big enough to dispose of annoying kids!
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Post by scottychaos on Jun 16, 2009 12:16:59 GMT
I know this isnt a record holder, but its my personal largest trap ever!  37mm one and 7/16 inches. just a shade under 1.5" 1.5 to 1.75 inches seems to be the max for VFTs.. I have never seen or heard of a documented trap over 2".. IMO, 2" is probably possible, and has probably happened.. but IMO 3 or 4 inches is just myth and legend..has probably not actually happened. If there was such a thing as a 4" VFT trap, I think we would have lots of documentation, photos, and tissue culture plants!  the fact that no real evidence exists, tends to support the "myth" theory..like Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster! Scot |
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Post by fischermans on Jun 16, 2009 19:36:32 GMT
And if possible what the largest flytrap known that's in a picture, on the internet (with an accurate scale beside it). Hello Simple answer: Mine 1  Round about 6,5 cm Regards Alexander |
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Post by scottychaos on Jun 17, 2009 11:31:10 GMT
Alexander,
im confused by the ruler in your photo..
its in centimeters?
the first centemeter is visable to the left of the trap..
the number "1" indicates one centemeter from the end of the ruler..
but then the "8" to the right of the trap doesnt compute..
looks like it should actually be about 4 centimeters..not 8.
what am I missing?
thanks,
Scot
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Post by gardenofeden on Jun 17, 2009 13:25:13 GMT
it's called photoshop!
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