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Post by steelguitarplayerr on Jan 14, 2009 18:26:57 GMT
help i have an ongoing problem and would appreciate any suggestions i could get.
here goes my setup is
problem with getting the tempetature hot enough in my tank to propigate pitchers on nepenthes. I have a total of 3 nepenthes.there are two others one green spotted and a yellow that grew and opened pitchers 3 pitchers within 2 months of my adding the shop light to my tan.the amp has one leaf with the hint of a pitcher but getting no bigger size to it and the other leaf that has started. I went out yesterday and bought a submersable glass heater and turned the temperature on it to 85 degrees the higest setting it had. I brought a plastic grate material square from lowes and raised it around 3 inches and put the plants on it. On the corner of the glass a cut was made to allow humidity to escape.I was using a small exaust fan to eliminate humidity and the fogging on the tank. This unfortunately results in lowering of the temperature around 2 degrees back to 74 degrees.I have heard of people using a pump to circulate the water but dont know if there is not enought room in the tank to mess with that.
also what about putting maybe some sort of insulation around the outside 3 sides of the tank ie:Styarafoam or pipe insulation to try to up the temperature.?
any thoughts from anyone??
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Post by brokken on Jan 14, 2009 22:44:39 GMT
Well... Amps like it both hot AND humid. Why not forgo the fan and just let the excess humidity build in the tank? Just leave the hole for the fan there so there's some exchange of air - but passive exchange should be enough to keep the amps healthy.
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Post by dash3echo on Jan 14, 2009 23:01:20 GMT
My amp grows in highland temps; faster than the rest of my nepenthes too! That doesn't mean yours will too...
If the fan drops your humidity, you've probably got enough airflow to be able to forgo the fan. I use a fan in my mini greenhouse to circulate the air... but it doesn't pull in outside air; thus the humid air is just pushed around. How long have you had the plant? What type of medium is it in?
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Post by steelguitarplayerr on Jan 15, 2009 6:05:46 GMT
i have had to ampularia for awhile like the others.I have actually the last 3 months ago increased the light.i have had the amp a year and the medium it is in is pots with medium i received it in. the pots are sitting on a white plastic shelf type material i got at lowes .i have it raised with 3 inches of water under it.
also you indicated needing more humidity. if the nepenthes are removed from the tank at some point say ie:To work on the tank or something else,will this cause the pitchers to wither easier?
anyway the other nepenthis seem to grow pitchers easier then the ampularia.i will let the humidity stay in it.hope it works
i am getting tomorrow a 240 gallon terreriam so plan to have alot of fun with that. I am using the smaller tank as a testing tank to see what happens. do you know if a person could grow both lowland and intermediate together??Thanks for the reply
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Post by brokken on Jan 15, 2009 6:45:43 GMT
i have had to ampularia for awhile like the others.I have actually the last 3 months ago increased the light.i have had the amp a year and the medium it is in is pots with medium i received it in. the pots are sitting on a white plastic shelf type material i got at lowes .i have it raised with 3 inches of water under it. also you indicated needing more humidity. if the nepenthes are removed from the tank at some point say ie:To work on the tank or something else,will this cause the pitchers to wither easier? anyway the other nepenthis seem to grow pitchers easier then the ampularia.i will let the humidity stay in it.hope it works i am getting tomorrow a 240 gallon terreriam so plan to have alot of fun with that. I am using the smaller tank as a testing tank to see what happens. do you know if a person could grow both lowland and intermediate together??Thanks for the reply I believe that just like anything else - once you acclimatize your Nephs to a high temperature and humidity environment, they'll suffer when you change those conditions unless you gradually reduce those parameters which will give your Nephs time to 'harden' and get used to the new conditions. Good luck with them.  Post pics if you can. |
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Post by dash3echo on Jan 15, 2009 16:57:16 GMT
You sometimes can grow highland and lowland together. You'll find that one or the other suffers. My Bical grows in highland conditions and only produces a new leaf every 3 months or so. I've only ever had 3 leaves alive on the stem at any time. It is getting bigger though... I think the key is the substrate types...
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Post by manders on Jan 15, 2009 20:31:52 GMT
The best method i've found for heating lowland tanks is to get a good soil heating or fish tank heating cable and thermostat. Hydor for example. A fish tank heater stuck in glass jar isn't going to work well for the long term and probably will break relatively quickly.
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Post by steelguitarplayerr on Jan 15, 2009 20:51:43 GMT
Hi Manders.Hey how about this . I can get an inline heater atached and also will be attached to a pump and filter. this way the water could stay heated and be circulated.
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Post by manders on Jan 16, 2009 22:54:17 GMT
I guess that will work. Personally I don't like too much water sloshing around and I don't like humidities up over the 90%'s in terrariums. 70-80% seems about right to me.
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Post by gemmateal on Jul 8, 2013 19:32:13 GMT
A heated pet bed from petco (flat heating mat) may work. I also have a non-pitchering ampullaria, and I'm going to use it to raise the temps in my terrarium . Cheap alternative, plus If you are low on space its perfect because It disguises under the tank. Just an idea, ill report back when I get a number on degrees it raised it.
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