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Post by boglodyte on Aug 31, 2007 4:21:06 GMT
Does anyone know where these types can be found? I've been jonesing for these two for a while!
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Post by Clint on Aug 31, 2007 14:38:15 GMT
Just a reminder that trading/buying/selling is prohibited here. Nothing wrong with asking where one can find a plant (AKA a retailer) but it's not OK to solicit transactions on the forum.
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Post by BarryRice on Aug 31, 2007 20:40:41 GMT
Hey folks,
Kill this post if it is too commercial....but I know that some 'Schnell's Ghost' plants will be sold at the UC Davis plant sale this October. You have to be there to buy plants---the sale doesn't do mail order.
Cheers
Barry
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Post by boglodyte on Sept 1, 2007 2:11:28 GMT
Sorry guys. I wasn't advocating selling or trading. I was just wondering if anybody could put me on the trail.
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Post by Alexis on Sept 1, 2007 13:03:16 GMT
What ever happened to 'Leah Wilkerson' in tissue culture?
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Post by John Brittnacher on Sept 1, 2007 21:00:43 GMT
Generally the plants you can get easily are ones that will grow best for you. Unless you already have a lot of plants and want something different, I wouldn't focus on particular hybrids that may be problematic getting in the first place and keeping alive once you have them.
Others disagree with me on this but I don't think 'Schnell's Ghost' is that great. I think the plant is a hybrid between S. leucophylla and S. alata and is rather weak. It's primary interest since the availability of true S. leucophylla from Hurricane Creek is the name and history of the plant. Unfortunately it will be at least a year until the ICPS Seed Bank gets more seeds from the Hurricane Creek S. leucophylla. Maybe someone can TC them.
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Post by Aidan on Sept 1, 2007 21:48:25 GMT
The description of 'Schnell's Ghost' is problematic in that it is written in such a way that though there is or was an original plant circulating under the name, almost any yellow-flowered clone may now be considered to be the cultivar:
"I am registering the cultivar name Sarracenia leucophylla ‘Schnell’s Ghost’, which should be applied to all clones of the species with yellow flowers and predominantly white coloured lids and upper pitchers. Since seed from self-pollinated individuals of this clone breed true (and presumably between different clones of this cultivar), Sarracenia leucophylla ‘Schnell’s Ghost’ may be propagated both asexually from cuttings and sexually from seed, as long as the cultivar characters are maintained. "
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Post by Alexis on Sept 1, 2007 23:54:09 GMT
I agree that 'Schenell's Ghost' isn't the most spectacularly performing leuco.
I might be biased though because I have an anthocyanin free leuco :-)
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Post by John Brittnacher on Sept 2, 2007 19:41:22 GMT
The description of 'Schnell's Ghost' is problematic in that it is written in such a way that though there is or was an original plant circulating under the name, almost any yellow-flowered clone may now be considered to be the cultivar: Oh! I didn't realize it was such a general description. So Schnell has lots of ghosts! The reason I think the plant at UC Davis is a hybrid is because, as I recall, it has flowers typical of S. alata. The petals curve out. You would not otherwise be able to distinguish a pure yellow flowered S. leucophylla from a hybrid with S. alata. But looking at the photo of the flowers in the CPN issue, the petals are classic S. leucophylla--they curve in. I should be in Davis next spring when it blooms again so if someone doesn't cut the flowers off I can double check. It would not be the first time we got a plant where the pitchers were more or less correct but the flowers were all wrong. But it is more than likely the plant came from a very reputable source so now I am wondering if there was a mistagged plant or I got confused. |
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Post by Alexis on Sept 3, 2007 18:21:48 GMT
Interesting John.
I know SG has been going around as "Bruce Bednar Clone" for a while as well.
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Post by agar on Sept 9, 2007 18:58:49 GMT
I've never seen either 'Schnell's Ghost', or 'Leah Wilkerson, but was fortunate enough to aquire a 'Hurricane Creek White' from Peter at California Carnivores early this last spring. It has lagged all year long producing only long phyllodia until recently. Last week the 2nd of 2 large pitchers opened, isn't it beautiful? HurricaneCreek1.jpg  HurricaneCreek2.jpg  I've also got a number of tissue culture jars of 'Hurricane Creek White' started from ICPS seed in January. Many of the seeds have germinated, and the pitchers are now about 1 inch (2.5cm) tall. John has indicated there is variability in the seedlings, and that only about 30-40% will be good enough to be concidered "true to type'. I'm hoping it'll be the case with these seedlings. HurricaneCreekTC.jpg  Agar |
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Post by wallsg7 on Sept 9, 2007 19:18:04 GMT
It does look nice.Im with alexis on this one though.The anthocyanin free leuco is head and shoulders above the rest.
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Post by Aidan on Sept 9, 2007 20:29:26 GMT
Not 'Schnell's Ghost'... though it could be so labelled. Not 'Hurricane Creek White' Not anthocyanin-free.  Whiter than all of them! ;D |
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Post by Alexis on Sept 9, 2007 22:39:17 GMT
Alba?
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Post by mikecpking on Oct 9, 2007 22:58:30 GMT
It looks like one of the Balwin leucos that Matt Soper had tissue cultured.
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