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Post by meizwang on Oct 6, 2012 4:40:19 GMT
Here's a giant form of S. psittacina from Calhoun Co, FL. The largest traps are typically formed in the fall, and while the traps on these plants are large, they can get even bigger: In the middle is a regular, adult sized plant (flowered this year) and to the left and right of this plant are two of the okefenokeensis from Calhoun Co, FL: This thing is pretty massive, but it can get a lot bigger than this!: Thumb for scale: Two giant plants in the foreground:
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normando
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"Well, it's a cross between a butterwort and a Venus fly trap."
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Post by normando on Jan 6, 2013 18:05:43 GMT
I didnt know there were other plants w/ okefenokeensis varieties! I was under the impresion that only S. Minor had Okefenokeensis varieties. Where can I obtain this clone? Do you sell or trade plants? If so could you message me privately? Or could you let me know where or how I can get my hands on this clone? Thank you so much, beutifull pictures and impresive plants! Thank you. Normando
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Post by ICPS-bob on Jan 7, 2013 18:38:39 GMT
S. psittacina var. okefenokeensis was described in S.McPherson & Schnell, Sarraceniaceae of North America: 754 (2011)
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 8, 2013 0:07:47 GMT
I'm not so sure about this variety... I see huge S. psittacina in many places where there are normal sized plants... Not sure why this is... But we only find S. minor variation okefenokeensis inside the Okefenokee or directly adjacent.
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Post by meizwang on Jan 14, 2013 18:44:14 GMT
Dave-very good observation. I think there's a lot more complexity to the giant S. psittacinas than we realize. Another thing that can be confusing is the giant S. psittacinas can look "normal sized" for many years, and then under optimal conditions, it can become gigantic! It is also true that the name "okefenokeensis" is a bit misleading since there are giant forms in Baldwin Co, Mobile Co, AL; Santa Rosa Co, Okaloosa co, Walton Co, Bay Co, Liberty Co, and Calhoun Co, FL...Marion Co, GA to name a few. I'm sure they're found in other areas as well. In some habitats, you can find giant plants dominating the population, as in Marion Co, GA. On the other hand, in Liberty Co, FL, it has been observed you can find a few giant plants hidden amongst the shrubs, and in the open fields, literally 5 feet away from the giants, there are only regular forms. In this case, perhaps the environment plays a huge role as to whether the plants will get giant or not. It seems like those in the field may have the genetic potential to become gigantic. To make things even more interesting, in cultivation, I have observed that there are definitely individuals that can get gigantic, whereas other individuals, even under optimal conditions grown in the same exact conditions, do not get gigantic. Don't get me wrong-they do get pretty big, but not gigantic. These are observations made over the span of a decade, so while it is possible the "regular" clones could still theoretically become giant, it's not likely. Oh, another interesting fact-I grow all the S. psittacinas in full blazing sun, and they still get gigantic! Here are some photos of the S. psittacina population for reference/enjoyment: Some unusual green-ish yellow ones here too:
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