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[bananahands]

I had my Cephs fall off the windowsill this morning and was wondering what the chances that they would recover would be. I had to replace some of the soil as well as repot them. They both had a leaf that broke in half but not torn and one had an immature pitcher break off ( I put it in the soil in hopes that it will root) Any inpu would be great!

Thanks.
Mike

[Clint]

It should recover in time, and if the roots weren't disturbed, it probably won't phase it. Give it a little Superthrive if you have any, and believe in it

[Aidan]

justlikeapill said:

...and believe in it

Ah, faith healing. That's the only way to get an effect with Superthrive.

[bananahands]

Thanks for your replies.
I guess I didn't mention it, but I put a drop of Superthrive on the soil near the "stem" and then top watered it. Does Superthrive really do what people say it does? I have heard a lot of conflicting opinions.

[Clint]

Ehh, some people think it does, some don't. It's not expensive, so I use it just in case I think it works, but it could be psychosomatic lol.

I wouldn't put it anywhere a plant undiluted. It has a very high TDS and you should see the evidence of that around the cap. Grizzly, isn't it? I use a cap full per every.... 16-20 oz. I'm not sure anyone goes by the "drop per gallon" rule. That's so little it's not worth fooling with.

[pinglover]

For what it's worth, I knocked my beloved baby Ceph over with either the watering can or my own sleeve and didn't even realize it was bottomed out under a few inches of its own potting medium overnight. I began having heart palpitations when I saw the over turned pot the next morning. I rinsed it off with rain water and re-potted it. It went from the size of a nickel to the size of a quarter within a month after that incident without SuperThrive. I suspect your plant will be fine. My plant is top watered too.

In lieu of any valid research results for SuperThrive, I've been passing on purchasing it any longer.

[locko]

You poor guy hope it recovers well

[Aidan]

bananahands said:

Superthrive really do what people say it does?.

Clint has faith, which as there is no empirical evidence is all there is to go on. The only proven effect is that of separating growers from their money.

[pinglover]

But... but... but it's got a really catchy label-
www.superthrive.com/page1.htm

Seriously, I used it for the longest time to avoid transplant shock because Bugweed was a staunch proponent of the product. At that time; I hadn't read their testimonials or even who wrote them, didn't realize who owned and maintained the "main agricultural testing lab" referenced in SuperThrive's advertising, and was unaware no peer reviewed research existed for the product. It wasn't until I ran out that I realized there appeared to be no difference between Sarracenia that had been "superthrived" and those that hadn't. I really began questioning the product after we had a bunch of left over D. capensis from a science fair to play with. Four in one tank and four in another tank. Four superthrived, four not superthrived. All eight had the same growing conditions. Not the greatest kid experiment but there was a control. The Drosera that were not superthrived appeared the same as the Drosera that had been superthrived so if anything we learned that SuperThrive doesn't hurt D. capensis in the short run.

I think there may be a lot of people out there, myself included, who use(d) the product in the event it does/did something for their plants based on recommendations of friends.

[Clint]

Were they newly transplanted? Some say it's only good to avoid shock from transplanting.

[pinglover]

We had bought a boatload of capensis in an attempt to be able to get 10 plants that were approximately the same size for five different 10 gallon tanks for some sort of a lighting experiment one of my kids was doing for the school science fair several years ago. That left a bunch of left over capensis. We used some for the SuperThrive experiment and the rest were passed on to other kids as gifts. We ultimately gave all of them away to his classmates when the experiments were complete. Every last one of them had been re-potted into new pots. I think all of them came bare roots but I can't remember now. It's been a few years.

The Sarracenia always come to me bare root other than from CA Carnivores when I buy them so I had only been using the SuperThrive for the first month or so after re-potting them. I'm not saying SuperThrive is a snake oil but I truly have serious reservations about a product that doesn't list ingredients (secret, secret, secret) and can't help but wonder if the good folk they included in all of their testimonials are still using the product and raving about it. Those testimonials appear to be rather "dated" and the vast majority of them were from the green industry which just happens to also sell the product. I used to buy mine from landscapers but I did buy some from the FlyTrap Shop at Bugweed's direction once too.

Not much more I can say about the product other than that I won't pay good money for a product that appears to do absolutely nothing for my plants that could in the long run actually damage them. There's simply no valid research out there and far too many people such as myself who stopped using it whose lot in life with their plants appears to be no worse for the loss of the alleged miracle drops.