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Post by eric on Dec 18, 2010 18:08:48 GMT
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Post by ieatflys on Dec 18, 2010 22:31:59 GMT
wow beautiful baby Ceph you got there
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Post by eric on Dec 18, 2010 23:43:16 GMT
Thank you very much!
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Post by Michael on Dec 25, 2010 7:30:46 GMT
Just like a proud father! :-)
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Post by jesser on Dec 25, 2010 18:53:01 GMT
These are beautiful plants and i'll probably collect lots of these . If you have a bigger plant with some good sized winter leaves, you can start your own leaf propagation. This little plant has grown from a single Cephalotus leaf of the mother plant since May this year.
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Post by eric on Dec 25, 2010 20:48:25 GMT
These are beautiful plants and i'll probably collect lots of these . If you have a bigger plant with some good sized winter leaves, you can start your own leaf propagation. This little plant has grown from a single Cephalotus leaf of the mother plant since May this year. Shes all I have atm. Maybe in the spring I can grab a couple bigger plants. I wish mine were big enough ;D. Nice lil ceph you have!
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Post by jesser on Dec 26, 2010 11:51:17 GMT
Maybe in the spring I can grab a couple bigger plants. I wish mine were big enough I wish you good luck to obtain a good sized plant at a reasonable price in your location! As I have heard, a typical Cephalotus costs three times as much in the States as it does in Europe. Is it true, that Cephalotus plants are so high-priced in the US? Currently I'm considering to purchase a so called "Giant clone", but I cannot make up my mind: "Giant Cephalotus" clones are very expensive here, told to grow very slowly and are sold as very tiny plantlets with absolutely nothing visible of a "Giant" form, compared to what is sold here as the "normal" clone. So at the moment I cannot tell what's behind the "Giant Cephalotus clone" stories: Sometimes I think, that everybody in the past 20 years who once had a single Cephalotus which was very old and got one bigger than normal pitcher because of fertilization, low-light growing conditions or by chance had declared his plant to be a "Cephalotus Giant form" and further on sold cutting-grown plantlets as such, despite of the smaller size the plants show regularly when grown by different growers under differing growing conditions... So I don't know if it is a good idea to invest in a small but high-priced "Giant Cephalotus", if the plant stays smaller than my "typical Cephalotus" for years and years to come. Or if will be better to experiment with fertilization and growing conditions to achieve big plants with big pitchers.
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Post by eric on Dec 26, 2010 18:38:34 GMT
Maybe in the spring I can grab a couple bigger plants. I wish mine were big enough I wish you good luck to obtain a good sized plant at a reasonable price in your location! As I have heard, a typical Cephalotus costs three times as much in the States as it does in Europe. Is it true, that Cephalotus plants are so high-priced in the US? Currently I'm considering to purchase a so called "Giant clone", but I cannot make up my mind: "Giant Cephalotus" clones are very expensive here, told to grow very slowly and are sold as very tiny plantlets with absolutely nothing visible of a "Giant" form, compared to what is sold here as the "normal" clone. So at the moment I cannot tell what's behind the "Giant Cephalotus clone" stories: Sometimes I think, that everybody in the past 20 years who once had a single Cephalotus which was very old and got one bigger than normal pitcher because of fertilization, low-light growing conditions or by chance had declared his plant to be a "Cephalotus Giant form" and further on sold cutting-grown plantlets as such, despite of the smaller size the plants show regularly when grown by different growers under differing growing conditions... So I don't know if it is a good idea to invest in a small but high-priced "Giant Cephalotus", if the plant stays smaller than my "typical Cephalotus" for years and years to come. Or if will be better to experiment with fertilization and growing conditions to achieve big plants with big pitchers. Mine is a typical and it cost me 30 US dollars. Its about the size of a quarter so yes, they are expensive here. I don't have much experience with Cephs so I can't help you on the giant thing. I know they are too expensive for me to even consider buying here. I saw one on ebay BIN for 500 US dollars. So far, it doesn't seem like a difficult plant to grow. Mine is already putting out new pitchers.
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Post by twigss on Dec 27, 2010 5:51:30 GMT
In the US, Hummers Giant pops up on eBay once or twice a month at sizes ranging from very small to medium. They generally go for 3-4 times as much as a typical of the same size. Unfortunately, I have never seen any other giant clones for sale in the US on eBay or on any of the big online stores. In fact, most of the online stores are either perpetually out of stock or do not carry Cephalotus at all.
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Post by eric on Dec 27, 2010 7:44:08 GMT
They are very hard to come by in the US. The only giant i've seen on Ebay is HG too. I saw an EB on auction last week. I didn't watch it to see what the highest bid was. I knew it would be outrageous. If I could find seeds i'd be happy. I'm a patient man and wouldn't mind seeing what type of plants pop up.
Hard to trust buying Ceph seeds from Ebay. They might not be fresh.
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Post by jesser on Dec 27, 2010 9:20:40 GMT
In the US, Hummers Giant pops up on eBay once or twice a month at sizes ranging from very small to medium. They generally go for 3-4 times as much as a typical of the same size. Also here the price for Giant clones are 3-4 times higher than for a typical one. I think this is caused by the slow growth. Everybody tells me about his Giant clone "very slow grower, sometimes even stops growing". Here in Germany mainly the "German Giant" clone is offered. And offering size always seem to be "very small". So here it comes to the ridiculous situation that growers point to a pot of their collection with a big Cephalotus and tell "this is my Cephalotus typical form" and to a pot with a very small Cephalotus and tell "this is my Giant Cephalotus". And two years after the purchase the situation is still the same and the "typical" has bigger pitchers than the "Giant". Strange! I think I'm happy with my "typical" and try to keep it alive several years until I see maximum mature height pitchers of the typical form. I don't think my patience with a Giant form will be enough. If I could find seeds i'd be happy. I'm a patient man and wouldn't mind seeing what type of plants pop up. A few years ago I thought the same. But now I think: It's much harder to grow Cephalotus from seed than to purchase fresh seeds. Looking for fresh seed requires looking at the right month of the year. I think September is a good month to look for fresh Cephalotus seeds in the northern hemishpere, because that is most likely the month when experienced Cephalotus growers harvest the seeds in their greenhouses. Germinating the (fresh) seeds is also relatively easy. BUT: I was not able to grow the germinated seed. Despite of different substrate mixes, pure peat or peat with a lot of sand mixed, the seedlings stayed tiny for several weeks and then died. I was not able to grow a single Cephalotus from seed until now. So after trying Cephalotus seeds without any success (germination yes, but seedlings always not growing and died after some weeks) I purchased a plant. Under my cultivation conditions the plant does very well and even leaf propagation is no problem.
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Post by eric on Dec 27, 2010 16:01:01 GMT
Did you have the seedlings in a terrarium? What was your humidity like? I've often heard that Cephs fall victim to fungus and rot easily. I think I could probably keep them alive. I'm just the opposite of you...great with seeds but known to kill started plants:p. Hopefully, I can keep this ceph alive long enough to try to get some pullings.
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Post by jesser on Dec 27, 2010 22:40:40 GMT
Did you have the seedlings in a terrarium? What was your humidity like? Very high humidity in a propagator box during germination and somewhat lower humidity in a terrarium after germination. I don't know exact humidity values.
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Post by eric on Dec 28, 2010 0:52:27 GMT
Saw a couple cephs on ebay today. A hummers and Czech giant. Probably go for a lot of money. Wish I could bid on one:p.
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Post by jesser on Dec 28, 2010 11:23:37 GMT
Saw a couple cephs on ebay today. A hummers and Czech giant. Czech Giant? Strange! In Europe, a Dionaea Czech Giant is offered as a cultivar from time to time, but I never heard about a Cephalotus cultivar with that name. Must be a new selection/invention. Does anybody know the origin of "Cephalotus Czech Giant"?
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