Anyone ever grow purple/black H. pulchella?

[bluecrabofpain]

Hello everyone again!
From my library I picked up a copy of Pitcher Plants of the Americas (McPherson) and found some stunning pictures of H. pulchella with a deep purple/black coloration. I've also seen a few pictures of them growing in captivity. One thing I've noticed about them is that they're all.... green.

I'm going to steal a picture from wistuba:

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Has anyone ever grown an H. pulchella with that kind of coloration? I'd love to grow Heliamphora in the future, although they're a long way off at my meager experiene level.

...and now hardy (compared to other heliamphora) is pulchella anyway?

Thanks a bunch!

[chimanta]

In Leiden (ICPS-Meeting) Andreas Wistuba hat a plant there he wants to name as a cultivar and this plants really looked burgundy black - as he plans to name it like on the pic on his hp, see pic (scroll down to burgundy black:
www.heliamphora.de/shop/

[peterhewitt]

This is a very recent addition to wistuba's list, and i doubt anyone has mature specimens except him.

[jeff]

I have this "burgundy black" , a minor not a pulchella it seems to me

but for instant it is juvenil and I just have it, so you have to wait a bit to see what it gives ;D

jeff

[bluecrabofpain]

It's such a lovely looking plant, once I become semi-competent I'll give them a try. Jeff: Show us your burgundy black when it grows up!

Oh, and sorry about the rule violation .

[Dave Evans]

Yes, we are talking about two different species, but they do happen to have the same range in coloration patterns; depending on the particular clone.

The most diversity in Heliamphora still occur on the Tepui mountains in the wild. In time, with multiple gatherings of new genetic material and subsequent breeding, the amount of genetic diversity can actually become greater in cultivation than it is in the wild.

The most extremely vibrant red/purple/black clones of H. pulchella are still only found in the wild, with maybe a handful of plants in cultivation from cuttings; which really isn't a very good idea for multiple reasons. However, there have been many collections of seed from the tepuis and there is a whole new crop of seedlings coming up in many collections around the world; so my statements about limited genetic diversity in cultivation might already be outdated... If folks are successful with these plants, we should be seeing a lot more color varieties of several species soon enough.

[jeff]

my minor 'burgundy black' is too juvenil to have this special colour and may be I have not the material to achieve ;D

like DAVE talk , it is just a selectioned clone from a wistuba nursery .

I am also fully agree with him on this mode hybrids and clones selected.

in my opinion in a first time well known natural taxa

jeff

[kby]

My burgundy black (which, indeed, Wistuba sells as H. minor) did grow an adult pitcher just after I got it (seems to be now in adjustment mode; pitcher was already forming). I notice some juveniles he had on it when it arrived that were indeed the burgundy black colr, so just being juvenile isn't an excuse in itself. The adult pitcher, which is still not the full mature form (only rudimentary appendage for nectar spoon) did get a redder edge than my "normal" (but more adult) H. minor. I'll have to look, but I don't think any more of the really dark juveniles are still alive.-kby

[twigss]

One of my plants has some very dark juvenile pitchers. Its just now starting to throw up mature pitchers so we will see how it progresses.