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Post by Hikenyura on Nov 22, 2007 16:39:23 GMT
This morning I noticed my nepenthes sanguinea's perisome was shiny, and I realized it was nectar, so I went up and tasted it, and AFTER I did it, I thought about its health hazards (shoot first and talk later is what describes me today)?
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Post by Aidan on Nov 22, 2007 18:13:56 GMT
The next time that you get the urge to taste first and think later, just remember what all those flies who are also partial to nectar may have been paddling their tiny feet in before alighting on your plants...
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Post by mannyherrera on Nov 22, 2007 22:59:41 GMT
I'm with Aidan. But I can't tell you how many people's eyes light up when I tell them the nectar (along with that produced by Sarracenia) contains a narcotic. Some have even asked if they could lick it. What people will do for a buzz. Well...at least it's not as bad as swiping your tongue over a toad.
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Post by glider14 on Nov 23, 2007 0:05:25 GMT
i thought it was a dart frog  haha mine are grown inside and the bigegst bugs i get around my neps are little fungus gnats. i like to make myself think its ok to eat  i think its cool how different species all have different tasting nectar. sweet, bitter, no taste, SUPER sweet....the list goes on. Alex
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Post by Brian Barnes on Nov 23, 2007 0:59:19 GMT
Alright! I confess! I've tasted Nepenthes nectar, S. minor and S. flava nectar....and i loved every minute of it. ;D...VERY sweet! C'mon guys....fess up! 
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Post by Hikenyura on Nov 23, 2007 4:39:03 GMT
First of all what is narcotics, second of all, I don't knink a fly was on any of my Nepenthes (well non in the pitchers) The only other thing I tasted is drosea dew and the only problem I had was a finger growing behind my knee ;D.
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Post by glider14 on Nov 23, 2007 21:29:57 GMT
narcotics...ever heard of opium? oxycoton? heroine? nacotics are "drugs" that are extremely addictive, originate from the Opium Poppy plant(as seeds) and have a pain nullifying effect. Alex
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Post by Aidan on Nov 23, 2007 21:47:33 GMT
Opiates derive from the Opium poppy.
Narcotic may have several meanings, but in this case it refers to compounds found in nectar that gradually put insects to sleep. With Sarracenia at least, victims become very drowsy after feeding for a while and may easily be picked up by the wings.
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Post by Hikenyura on Nov 23, 2007 23:48:44 GMT
So I could take some nepenthes nectar right before I go to bed to get a good nights sleep.
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Post by Clint on Nov 24, 2007 0:03:29 GMT
No. There are no opiates in any carnivorous plants. There is a toxic alkaloid in S. flava nectar called Coniine and it's not narcotic in the literal sense of the word. It's a neurotoxin and it's what killed Socrates when he was forced to drink poison hemlock. Before you ask, no you can't get high or overdose from licking S. flava pitchers.
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Post by Dave Evans on Nov 24, 2007 0:53:32 GMT
Before some governmental cracker decides CP are too dangerous to let kids near them because it sends the "Wrong message"... There are no narcotics in CP's.
Like all plants, there are interesting chemicals in them though...
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Post by Brian Barnes on Nov 24, 2007 12:27:23 GMT
And.....they taste great! (especially to insects) ;D
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Post by mannyherrera on Nov 24, 2007 19:17:47 GMT
As per Aidan's description of it...it is a narcotic.
nar·cot·ic-[nahr-kot-ik] –noun
1. any of a class of substances that blunt the senses, as opium, morphine, belladonna, and alcohol, that in large quantities produce euphoria, stupor, or coma, that when used constantly can cause habituation or addiction, and that are used in medicine to relieve pain, cause sedation, and induce sleep.
2. anything that exercises a soothing or numbing effect or influence: Television is a narcotic for many people.
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Post by Dave Evans on Nov 24, 2007 22:49:05 GMT
As per Aidan's description of it...it is a narcotic. nar·cot·ic-[nahr-kot-ik] –noun 1. any of a class of substances that blunt the senses, as opium, morphine, belladonna, and alcohol, that in large quantities produce euphoria, stupor, or coma, that when used constantly can cause habituation or addiction, and that are used in medicine to relieve pain, cause sedation, and induce sleep. 2. anything that exercises a soothing or numbing effect or influence: Television is a narcotic for many people. Well Manny, I guess narcotics are good for children  After all, TV seems to be everyone's favorite babysitter (though not mine).
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Post by vraev on Nov 28, 2007 22:49:46 GMT
oooh just a related issue on nectar. There was a rumor on ocps that the nectar of sarracenia's may have a potential cancer causing agent. Is this true? I have had nectar ...thick on my sarr. But I havent seen any on the neps yet. The closest i saw was something like a shiny sheen on my bical. But I wasnt too sure. Too little quantity to lol...taste. :p
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