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Post by leeb on Dec 12, 2014 7:44:49 GMT
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Post by leeb on Dec 12, 2014 21:26:03 GMT
For some reason the link to the open access paper only works for a while then cuts out. It is available on the Blumea website here: www.ingentaconnect.com/content/nhn/blumea/pre-prints;jsessionid=ekcjm6rjoofn.alice as the third paper from the top. If this doesn't work go to the website for the journal Blumea and look at their "fast track" articles. It is the paper on the N. alata group. The paper is open access so just click on the title to download it. LeeB. |
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Post by Dave Evans on Dec 17, 2014 1:24:21 GMT
You know, I think it would be better to call this the "N. graciliflora group" as that is the wide spread species responsible for most of the confusion!
Rather few people have even seen a N. alata or even associate its feature with the right species! But everyone is familar with N. graciliflora as it is basically a weed in cultivation. I consider it the "capensis of Nepenthes". Cuttings never fail.
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Post by tanukimo on Dec 17, 2014 9:10:25 GMT
I think that title belongs to x ventrata, unless you are talking about species only. I don't think graciliflora is half as common as ventrata is though, and ventricosa seems to be more readily available.
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Post by Dave Evans on Dec 17, 2014 21:43:08 GMT
Right, and the common "ventrata" is actually N. graciliflora x N. ventricosa. Because N. g. has always been referred to as "N. alata" until people started noticing these aren't the same species within the last decade or so, but there was nothing official and the correct name was buried under misinformation.
N. alata grows a lot more slowly and is no where near as robust.
N. ventrata is a super weed just like its N. graciliflora and N. ventricosa parents.
N. venticosa flowers at a very short heigh for Nepenthes and you can easily flower plants under one meter tall, even under 60 cm high. Most species want their main stems to be at least a couple of meters before producing a flowering stem. It also flowers up to twice a year, seasonally and so N. ventricosa is probably the most common Seed Grown species in cultivation.
I've give you that one, N. ventricosa flowers and seeds like D. capensis.
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Post by coline on Dec 19, 2014 15:07:15 GMT
Dave, have you ever seen a ventrata flowering? Ive seen specimens up to 2m tall and people say they don't flower. I've only heard of 1 friend having one in bloom but had no pictures to see.
So at which height do they flower?
PD: My N. x gentle flowers at 30cm or so, he is crazy
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Post by ICPS-bob on Dec 19, 2014 22:00:31 GMT
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Post by coline on Dec 20, 2014 10:53:23 GMT
Thanks Bob!
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