D. capensis Crestate

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Nov 30, 2014 20:50:14 GMT Joseph Clemens said:

Where do you come by this name? [D. xbeleziana (rotundifolia X intermedia)].

It sounds like an interesting hybrid. Though I don't know of any valid Drosera with that name.

See:
Journal de botanique
The Plant List
IPNI
The Carnivorous Plant Database


Some taxonomists have renamed this as D. × belezeana as it is derived from the name Beleze.

Dr. Jan Schlauer also believes the type specimen as illustrated in the Journal de botanique 5(12) 1891 is actually D. rotundifolia (even though the seed illustrated is not fusiform). This is why it is listed as a synonym for D. rotundifolia in the CP Database. I believe that Dr. Schlauer was planning on examining the herbarium type specimen at Saint-Leger, Seine-et-Oise.

[Joseph Clemens]

I simply did a search on the Carnivorous Plant Name Database. At first it didn't even bring anything up. Finally, when I did a search for the genus Drosera, it brought up an alphabetical list, where it was reported -> "Drosera belezeana (Not Accepted)".

Correction: I'd heard of Drosera beleziana, or Drosera x beleziana. I knew it was a controversial nothosepecies. I don't deny that this hybrid, occurs in nature. Nor that some of the hybrids may be fertile. I have even enjoyed growing this hybrid, in years past. But, like some taxonomists (I'm not a taxonomist), I have trouble with the use of the ICN to validate what is, in effect, a grex name for a hybrid. Like the ISHS, via the ICNCP, states, grex naming is reserved for orchids. Despite that, some efforts to create a grex naming registry for Nepenthes, has been attempted. I simply don't see that such a grex naming system is needed. Most growers don't even seem to understand or use the cultivar naming system, which is infinitely simpler. Though such lineage tracking may seem helpful and important, even in orchids, it only seems to have any serious importance to some breeders, who may be able to help them track breeding potential. Which seems it would be easier if breeders would simply keep notes on what works, and what doesn't.

I have no problem growing plants I like, even if they're just known by their species, hybrid formula names, or even their cultivar name.

I was really just wondering where the poster jwalker had come by that name.