coline
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Post by coline on Jul 31, 2014 11:09:33 GMT
I was recently wondering, is there some thing as this we have here for orchids, but for a traveler's nepenthes field guide? This are normally either a plain sheet of paper or in a brochure form, plastified so water doesn't damage them, and mostly painted diagrams of plants for ease of recognition. They are really handy for a traveler to take and know which plants you are looking at. And I was looking if someone has seen one made for nepenthes and of course where to buy it.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jul 31, 2014 18:24:55 GMT
The Nepenthes are a lot bigger than the orchids, so I'm doubtful you can use the same format.
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Post by adelea on Aug 1, 2014 2:23:15 GMT
I bet it would work on an A3, or on an A4/broacher if only for a certain area (E.G just PNG), I think if you tried PNG, Borneo and say Mas all together you would not have large enough pics for ID.
In saying this it would be pretty basic, I doubt you could have room for variants (E.G. red/green ampullaria), and the detailing would not allow you to distinguish similar species.
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Post by Dave Evans on Aug 1, 2014 22:08:57 GMT
Well, I'm not really seeing the need either. Most parks contain a couple of species. And even when there are quite a few species you still have to hire guides to bring you to the plants, so I'm thinking most of the folks doing this would already know what they are looking for...
What does PNG stand for?
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Post by coline on Aug 2, 2014 3:16:53 GMT
Exactly the same thing happen here, at none place you may see even a single natural orchid from the brochure, but you get a whole idea of the plants you may see around the whole country as if you were traveling to different hotels, botanical gardens, or other such places to see the plants. Lets say Borneo, with 30+ species may really easily be fitted into one of these. I have one of orchids that depicts a whole plant and a detailed flower on the side, with correct scientific name, common names in english and a common name in spanish, size of plant and size of flower. As I was saying, they normally come folded in several sections, mine is 65x22cm and is folded into 7 sections along the lenght, printed on both sides and depicts 80 orchids, a cover, a description of an orchid flower parts and a ecosystem map of the country. Of course it is logical for us, people that know a little more about the plants than any average person, that these guides are merely observational as to show which plant you May be looking at; but offer a really quick refference to the plant and some basic information. And because of this, the brochure is an item you purchase at souvenir stores, airports or maybe some book stores; for purposes as I mentioned before, as to gift it to someone, or as mere souvenir to take home and show people what you saw while sitting at home.
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Post by hcarlton on Aug 2, 2014 6:32:02 GMT
Well, I'm not really seeing the need either. Most parks contain a couple of species. And even when there are quite a few species you still have to hire guides to bring you to the plants, so I'm thinking most of the folks doing this would already know what they are looking for... What does PNG stand for? I would guess it stands for Papua New Guinea
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Post by adelea on Aug 2, 2014 6:44:49 GMT
Yes PNG is Papua New Guinea, Mas is Malaysia, just as USA is Unites states of America
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Post by ccwerner on Aug 13, 2014 13:43:12 GMT
I would think such brochure will be useful for educational purpose and beginners. At highlands of Peninsular Malaysia, I used to think that there are two different species, one with purplish black pitcher and the other white with red splashes pitcher. Later only I realised that both are from the same species, the former is the lower pitcher and the latter is the upper pitcher.
The brochure for orchids has the necessary info for orchid identification. 1. Vegetative structure and habit 2. Influorescence structure and habit 3. Flower structure (especially the labellum or lip)
The most common colour of the flowers normally will be adopted as there are too many shades and even colour variants for some wild orchids.
Not that familiar with Nepenthes though. Probably the upper pitcher, lower pitcher and leaf structure?
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Post by coline on Aug 15, 2014 3:43:35 GMT
Precisely, that would be the necesary information to do one, the flowers are too small in most cases to be depicted, and a tourist would be observing the peculiar jars that the plants he doesn't know make for catching insects
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Post by Dave Evans on Aug 15, 2014 21:23:43 GMT
Yeah, this is sounding better.
1) a depiction of a lower rosette or "short shoots stage" of growth. 1b) this can include a couple of lower pitchers from various angles.
2) depict a section of intermediate stem growth with one leaf and pitcher included. 2b) some species have special features of the stem/leaf junction--perfect way to illustrate them.
3) depict a section of upper growth with one leaf and pitcher included.
Perhaps section 2 and 3 can be attached by a suggested/cartoon vine?
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Post by coline on Aug 16, 2014 12:36:37 GMT
The question then would be, has anyone seen one of those made and sold somewhere?
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