jcal
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Post by jcal on Jan 28, 2014 20:39:01 GMT
I was wondering if anyone has ever collected soil near a cephalotus plant in situ and preformed an analysis. At the moment I would be thrilled with a thorough visual inspection! I have been trying to find this information but I have exhausted my resources. I am seeking any information that would give me and idea of what they grow in in the wild. If anyone has this information, or know of a good place to start looking I am all ears!
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 28, 2014 21:47:42 GMT
Seriously, you couldn't find natural habitat of the Australia pitcher plant on the internet, and take an educated guess?
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 28, 2014 21:52:16 GMT
Sigh, peaty sands in SW Australia.
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jcal
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Post by jcal on Jan 29, 2014 0:11:32 GMT
Thank you for your generic response. I am looking for more than that.
Again, if you have experienced this plant in the wild I would love to know if readings were taken as far as nutrient levels, ph, nitrogen ect... Or any other useful information about the subject that.you are willing to share.
I have found one scientific study on the matter but it only focused on nitrogen levels among colonies of plants.
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 0:16:15 GMT
Experience with them? No, but I do have a knack for finding information.
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 0:26:07 GMT
But I am unsure what you want such specific information for, imitation of their natural soil would be difficult and wouldn't necessarily provide them with the perfect growing environment. What you need to do is look up the districts or counties the plants live in, and look up soil analysis data for the counties/districts, without using the plant's name. If you are lucky, there might even be a house for sale near their habitat, or a nature preserve, and they tend to have decent soil data.
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 0:38:01 GMT
The Peter D'Amato book I have recommends a media of 1 part peat to 2 parts sand, in a plastic, terra cotta, or glazed clay drained container (plastic preferred), and using the tray method of watering, allowing the water in the tray to dry/be soaked up before adding more water to the tray. That should be enough to grow one.
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 0:56:51 GMT
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 0:58:29 GMT
pH 4.7-5.2 , reminds me of soils that have gone through acid rain in that aspect
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 1:06:23 GMT
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 1:11:32 GMT
Btw, the geographic region is called the SWAFR, which stands for the Southwest Australian Floristic Region. Looking up its soil will get you a lot better results than looking up anything with the word Cephalotus in it, because most studies of the soil either don't focus on specific species or primarily focus on orchids.
Basically, the word Cephalotus is a search blocker, as in it diverts focus from the actual question you have. In short, it is like searching for the list of all the worlds leaders with Barack Obama typed in. Every result is going to focus on that one thing.
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maiden
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Post by maiden on Jan 29, 2014 4:31:42 GMT
Nice, thanks for the link!
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 15:12:26 GMT
Well, the guy insulted my answer, so I overdid it a bit. To think, this guy "exhausted" all of his resources, and I found all of that within an hour -_-
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jcal
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Post by jcal on Jan 29, 2014 17:40:08 GMT
Your off- color responses were actually useful. Thank you for finding the info that was a lot closer to what I was searching for. That's sincere gratitude, no sarcasm. You have good ideas about finding the info that I will use in the future.
Not sure why thread rubbed you the wrong way, but if you would have provided that info initially instead of your first rude remark I wouldn't have responded in like fashion. Its a forum. It's here to share information.
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Post by sykosarah on Jan 29, 2014 18:16:13 GMT
You called my response generic, and saying that you exhausted all your resources is an insult to the internet. However, I was in a rather bad mood, my drosera have a mystery guest that is driving me nuts, in part because I have no idea if it is a dangerous fungus or just some kind of strange sediment build up. Even better, the sulfur I used to prevent fungus from developing is useless once it is there, and it neutralizes or reacts badly with all other fungicides that can treat existing infections. FML.
Glad this info helped, I have had to search for a lot of information for school, so I have developed and refined my search techniques. Don't know how long you were attempting to find the information you wanted, but I did it within an hour. You just gotta manipulate the key words.
Here was my process: Searched "Soil analysis of Cephalotus Habitat" = bust, focus all on the plant. 2 Search: "Location of Cephalotus in the wild" = bingo! Proper term for the name of the habitat 3 Search: "Soil Analysis of the SWAFR" = partial bust, mostly focuses on orchids for some reason. 4 Search (and this is what ended up working) "Soil pH of the SWAFR" = get soil pH range And so I just replaced pH with other relevant soil qualities to get the rest of the information. That was a rough search, I give you that, it rarely takes me this long to find decent information.
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