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Post by paulkoop on Jan 5, 2014 4:26:58 GMT
I bought a bunch of nepenthes in the summer and this is what one is doing. In your experience do certain plants basil freely or is this just a flook Attachments:
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Post by paulkoop on Jan 6, 2014 6:45:03 GMT
Did i word weird or does no one have anything to say?
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Post by mattb on Jan 6, 2014 7:57:07 GMT
Your wording is fine Paul. I am no Nepenthes expert, but I'd say your plant is more than a few years old, so the basal isn't unusual. As for the cause and for different species tendency to produce them I cannot say. Matt
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Post by adelea on Jan 6, 2014 22:36:10 GMT
This has happend to my N.Bicalarata and Ampullaria before, small plants only 1-3years of age getting basal shoots, it does not seem to effect the plant in any negative way.
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Post by paulkoop on Jan 6, 2014 22:54:17 GMT
K thanks i was also thinking it might be a bad thing ..or like orchids they basil when there stressed with crown rot or w/e.
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Post by paulbarden on Jan 7, 2014 17:31:03 GMT
Just so you realize there's a difference, Basil is the herb you make pesto out of, the shoots Nepenthes make are basals. :-)
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Post by paulkoop on Jan 7, 2014 18:14:51 GMT
Lol. me no good at englislimish
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Post by adelea on Jan 7, 2014 21:24:03 GMT
Yeah basil is an interesting plant to with many variations, I have a few varieties here, one has purple leaves, one has tiny leaves, another has large 10-15cm long by 8-10cm wide leaves and another one is lemon scented. And they also invade my bog gardens, their almost as invasive as mimosa and grass.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 8, 2014 0:59:56 GMT
Just so you realize there's a difference, Basil is the herb you make pesto out of, the shoots Nepenthes make are basals. :-) Right, well maybe is better to call them "branches" instead of "basals", which is just short for "growth in the lower section of the plant". Then people will stop thinking they can just "separate them from the mother plant" as one can do with real "basals" Nepenthes that are happy, branch. Some more frequently than others. They can branch from ground level or the can branch from an old vine by activating a dormant node. They very rarely branch by splitting an actively growing growth point--I've never seen it happen unless a flower stem happens in between the resulting branches.
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Post by paulkoop on Jan 8, 2014 1:20:21 GMT
If u scrap a little at the "lower branches"will they not start to root on there own
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 8, 2014 18:17:35 GMT
Only in very high humidity and when they get larger. In most cases you would just damage and probably kill them. Long branches can be airlayered into a different pot, if they are flexible enough or happen to grow in a prostrate manner...
You can remove a new branch after it grows out 5 or 6 nodes so you have at least a few cm of stem and 3 to 4 leaves. This is a cutting however, not a division, and will take several weeks or more to root in 100% humidity and once rooted you can slowly re-acclimate it to normal humidity over several more weeks.
However, I think your plant is just a baby and you should let it grow bigger. Nepenthes can get a little bushy. And when it is bigger you would consider taking cuttings at that point.
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Post by paulkoop on Jan 8, 2014 23:45:24 GMT
Thanks ,my question relates more twards seedlings then mature plants.thanks for the info.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 9, 2014 2:34:55 GMT
The plant in the photo is about 3 yeas old and has starting branching... It is not a seedling, in a year or so it will start vining... Now I'm a bit confused. Even these less than one cm plants are past the seedling stage:
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Post by arh on Feb 26, 2014 15:59:47 GMT
I realize this post is slightly old, but I figured I would throw my two cents in, in case it helps in anyway for you Paul. I have several young neps that are producing basals, and from what I can tell it has been because of a negative stress to the plant, such as low humidity. I know that sounds weird, but these plants were not producing pitchers either, and they were getting high light levels. I placed them into a sealed terrarium with very high humidity and almost overnight they sprang into action. When they were forming basals, it seemed that the main shoot was not growing at all, and in fact on my n. spathulata x glabrata, the main stem died off. I also cut a basal from a more mature n. ventricosa x Lady Pauline that was not growing well, and after the separation, the original plant began to grow vigorously and pitcher. I would prefer to keep several growth points on my plants, but if you are running into a plant that is not performing, and is producing basals, then consider using the basals as clones, or simply axing them until the plant is larger. Determine if your main growth points have slowed to a crawl, and decide then to keep or cut the new points, or in some cases, keep a new point, and off the original. I've attached some pics to show what I'm talking about, and I'm sure they will remind you of your case here. You can see with the n. veitchii pink (the hanging basket one) how it has some transport and what I would guess is low humidity damage in the form of wavy leaves. People may disagree, I'm simply saying what I've learned from my experiences.
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Post by adelea on Feb 26, 2014 21:10:35 GMT
Thats odd ARH, my small neps that basaled where making plenty of traps and where in my greenhouse, so good lowland temps, high humidity (70% and up) and pretty bright light. Nor did my plants slow in growth, although in saying that they do catch alot of insects in there, so maybe my plants were just getting enough food to counter that stunt your talking about.
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