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Post by zone6grower on Nov 11, 2013 22:22:42 GMT
I received a small 2" tall s. Purpurea venosa in a 3" pot in the mail on Friday from serricena NW and I had no extra pots or soil till today. Right when I got it I unwrapped it and watered it with some rain water and placed it outside , I put a little water in the pitchers to make sure it doesn't dry out. Well the night I placed it outside it dropped to 20F and it's been below freezing since then. So it's been their since and the whole pot is frozen. My question is should I leave it outside or put soil in the new pot and repot it after that soil freezes then place the plant in their?
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Post by ICPS-bob on Nov 11, 2013 23:37:23 GMT
Uggg. If the venosa froze solid, it may be a goner. It was probably grown in a greenhouse and had not been subjected to increasingly colder temps in preparation for winter. Also, venosa is a southern subspecies and although periodically subjected to freezing air temperatures in nature, the soil, roots and rhizome are probably never frozen. I would thaw the plant SLOWLY and pot it. You may find that it will eventually turn to mush. Or, if you are lucky, there may be some live tissue that might recover.
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Post by zone6grower on Nov 12, 2013 2:30:21 GMT
Should I keep it outside still or keep it inside after I slowly defrost the plant and have it grow under a light with my capensis upstairs where it's 60 - 70f?
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Post by hcarlton on Nov 12, 2013 4:53:08 GMT
I wouldn't go worst-case-scenario just yet, Sarracenia Northwest keeps all their temperate plants outside. I do have to say, though, the temperatures at their nursery rarely fall below 20 F even in winter, and yes, venosa is a more southern plant, but there may still be a chance. I would keep it inside, but in a cool place as it is the time of year they go dormant, and for certain it will now if it survives.
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Post by sykosarah on Nov 12, 2013 6:08:48 GMT
Sorry to say, but as a general rule, freezing temperatures are not usually the best for carnivorous plants. I normally use my refrigerator, due to the fact that it gets to cold in my area to keep my precious plants outside for dormancy.
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Post by hcarlton on Nov 13, 2013 4:58:42 GMT
Most Sarracenia actually require sudden drops or a light frost to go dormant actually, so freezing temperatures aren't necessarily bad. It's when they experience a hard frost like the 20 F temps here, or the pots freeze that are the problem.
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Post by sykosarah on Nov 13, 2013 6:35:33 GMT
He has the southern variety, so frost is not so good.
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Post by hcarlton on Nov 14, 2013 5:20:46 GMT
Frost is still experienced as far south as the middle of Florida on occasion. Where purp. venosa grows they do see occasional snow, as that subspecies is found from about New Jersey south through Georgia.
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Post by sykosarah on Nov 14, 2013 6:06:22 GMT
Maybe so, but this plant has been frozen solid for days, and the owner watered it like a spring or summertime deal rather than the protocol for winter. It was also a plant that was just in shipping and would probably still have been in shock. Not the best idea to shock it further by suddenly exposing it to freezing temperatures.
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Post by zone6grower on Nov 20, 2013 20:52:34 GMT
Ok so I repotted the venosa and it's stll healthy, I have it in my basement where it's 35-40f. Does anyone know if dormant plants need a light while in dormancy?
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Post by hcarlton on Nov 21, 2013 5:52:14 GMT
It's suggested, so that mold and rot is kept at bay, and so that the plant can photosynthesize during warmer parts of winter, but it may in some cases cause the plant to come out of dormancy early if temperatures rise even a small amount. On the other hand, mine are kept relatively dark in my basement, and the majority comes through without a problem.
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