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Post by Sockhom on Aug 12, 2013 15:53:37 GMT
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Post by Sockhom on Aug 18, 2013 16:20:16 GMT
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Post by frederick on Aug 29, 2013 7:02:54 GMT
very interesting, thanks for the links!
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Post by John Brittnacher on Aug 30, 2013 3:14:36 GMT
François, can you explain what you mean by thyrsoid panicle? I think you mean that multiple individual flowers arise at one point. But I am not clear how that fits the definition of thyrsoid.
Also what are petiolate leaves in the sense that some groups of Nepenthes have them and others don't? I don't see anything in the drawings and photos of Nepenthes paniculata that I don't consider typical although the marginal veins of the petiole look more pronounced than most species.
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Post by Dave Evans on Aug 31, 2013 3:59:53 GMT
Hello François, I think you mixed something up...? The first example on the left is a thyrsoid panicle and the one on the right is a raceme. Also, scales can be present on the raceme. In most Nepenthes with scales, they are recaulescence--it doesn't turn the raceme into a panicle (nor a partial panicle) as several folks I've discussed with before have mentioned... BTW, how does N. paniculata compare to N. truebiana? I'm not seeing much of grouping of alike species with N. bellii and friends, but the pitchers do appear somewhat similar at times. I don't think it is because N. p. is related to the insignis group, rather it might also be more distantly related to the main groups of all Nepenthes, like N. bicalcarata or N. khasiana. Duh, I didn't see that bit about N. truebiana at the bottom.
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