Need some help identifying my plant!

[coline]

Hi I had this nepenthes plant as almost my first carnivorous plant more than 8 years ago and it grew really nice, I pruned it and even got some divisions from it even not knowing that it was possible, but some day, somehow the plant started to rot, from the base and going upwards, I didn't know why was it, until I saw that it was because of the substrate I used; that in this country it is really really limited what you could get and I used 100% peat and the plants well, since grown under my trees got some of the 3000mm or more of rain we get here anually and got bad.
But the point is, I would love to get back this plant within my collection since now I know more about the topic and I have succeded with much more species.

[hcarlton]

Looks a lot like a lighter version of the common N. ventricosa. Either that or N. x ventrata. A clearer pic of the upper pitchers would help in certain ID.

[coline]

Well that would be quite a problem because Nx Ventrata is the companion of this plant and the clone I have looks like this:


And those are the photos I have from my plant, she is dead so I can't take any more.
This one is a female, once it made a big flower, and now that I now I have a Nxgentle male clone I'd really love to have her back

[hcarlton]

Okay, looking closer at the pitchers, it's a common N. ventricosa, one of the widespread clones.. A bit lighter than most, but ventricosa nonetheless.

[coline]

Interesting that fact, I'd never had gotten to that conclusion since all the ventricosas I've seen look so much alike Xventrata

[Dave Evans]

Hello Coline,

Your mystery plant is a N. ventricosa hybrid. The wings and peristome are just not right for N. v..

There is something about it which is reminding me of N. mirabilis or maybe N. khasiana...

...or...

It is a heatstressed, and stressed in general, N. ventricosa...

[coline]

Wow those 2 species really look kind of similar to my plant! some hibrids of those 2 plants are really alike

But that is another interesting point, the heat stress, if it were a ventricosa, it may be kind of stressed, since I live at 650m high, hot days but cool nights almost never below 18ºC even on the early mornings.

Even though, the last 2 photos are from when the plant was just bought at a supermarket, located at some 1100m high near the capital, so the heat stress may not appear as much there I think

[Dave Evans]

www.cpphotofinder.com/nepenthes-x-ventricosa-x-khasiana-1925.html

I think this could be the same as your plant... But I can't tell for sure, can you?

Yeah, the plant looks less stressed now, healthier over all. The photo from when you got it show it was not happy at the store.

[coline]

Yes I really think that is the plant I had, it is the one that best resembles, thanks a lot!

What now needs to be done, is to find another clone of her (I've had really bad luck trying to find nepenthes seeds)

Imagine how stressed was it, the pot in which it came was filled with common dirt with rice outer crusts, then when I passed her to a bigger one I continued that recipe (but adding as much rice as I could since peat is and even more was a really rare thing to find here) and all her life it sat on a tray of water with a couple of cm on it, not even rain water, a really calcium and mineral tap water at all time!!

[Dave Evans]

I think it is actually a rare plant. Most people haven't even heard of it. So I think someone just made the seeds a while back, maybe in the 1970's, and we see examples of it here and there.

Now we have all these import/export prohibitions, so the plants of this hybrid cannot travel easily to different countries anymore.

[coline]

Interesting, maybe some tissue culture sterile plants may do the travel, don't you think?

[Dave Evans]

They just have to be clean of soil, bad insects and have a set of papers. The problem I see is the few people who have this plant aren't in the business of making cuttings and selling them.

Some bigger nursery would have to "adopt" this plant and make cuttings...

[coline]

I've noticed, recently I found the Borneo Exotics huge propagating company of nepenthes, the one located at Sri Lanka, and not even saw something similar to my plant. I'll try to look for it all my life, but until then, first I'm going to expand my collection with more lowland nepenthes!

[coline]

I have revived this topic! Somehow, my payers have been heard! I found someone that also has this plant, well, I did made the mistake to not take good pictures.. but, at least it is the exact plant I was talking about, he gave me a couple of shoots for me to have the plant, and showed to me his collection.

Does it still seem the same plant ventricosa x khasiana?
The photo is in full size, so you may click view image and expand it.
Also, as this was kind of a high altitude nepenthes, there where my friend lives is 1400m high, so it is perfect for the plant.
Just look at his other plants: