Atlantic White Cedar Stand with S. Purpurea

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Otherwise known as "Location 3"

Keep in mind, I'm no ecologist nor am I a Botanist, just a guy with a camera who likes to explore and loves Carnivorous Plants!

This is a site on the edge of a freely draining pond where there used to be a commercial Cranberry Bog.

It's now a Suffolk County Park. There is what used to be a much larger location of S. Purpurea further upstream from this location. That site has been badly poached in the past and is in danger of disappearing completely due to overgrowth of competing vegetation... could seriously use a clearing!

The site I photographed is a stand of Atlantic White Cedar growing on islands which are clumps of soil with heavy spagnum mats in between. Earlier in the Spring, there is water slowly flowing through channels here and there. By the Summer, it looks like static mud. You definitely don't want to step on anything that looks like mud here!

There seems to be deer paths through the area and there is evidence of past human visits (probly hunters) but this site looks very wild and extremely seldom visited!

I'll have pictures of the environment itself soon enough... for now, here's Pitcher Plants!

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Actually, I think I'll start with D. xBeleziana







Now, for Pitcher Plants:

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Plenty more in the works!

[Brian Barnes]

Very nice!

Keep'em comin....

Brian

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Thanks! After these, I'll have the habitat photos... hopefully this week (still some organizing to do)

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Any ideas if these are ssp purpurea or spp venosa?
I'm assuming ssp purpurea

[coline]

Well, I can only say, great job with that pictures! I'd really want some day to see them on the wild!
But no idea of which variation it is

[Jay]

To my knowledge, the dividing line for S. purpurea venosa and purpurea (more like the "mixing line"), is in the Pinelands of New Jersey. Based on that, I'd say that these are ssp. purpurea. They are beautiful plants!

It was especially nice to see photos of D. x beleziana. I've only seen this hybrid in the wild in New Jersey.

If you're ever interested in guiding a fellow photographer and CP enthusiast around the site, I'd love to go with you :-).

[jdallas]

These should be ssp. purpurea based on location, but they sure look like S. purpurea ssp. venosa. They have the fuzzy exterior, and lack the relatively shiny appearance ssp. purpurea tends to have. They also have the nice ruffle on the collar, where ssp. purpurea tends to be more smooth. (I know there are exceptions.) I've included a photo of a purpurea venosa from Brunswick County, NC.

Jeff

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From what I understand, the NJ Pine Barrens and the Long Island Pine Barrens are pretty similar in habitat and climate.
So I wouldn't neccessarily judge them on whether or not they should be there by the official range. This could be something new?
I got thinking from seeing the type descriptions of ssp Venosa vs. ssp Purpurea and from those, these look Venosa to me... are there any people that can positively ID these?
Thanks Coline!
This spot is very sensitive and difficult to navigate Jay, but I do know of other great spots on LI if you're interested.
Thanks for the comparison photo JDallas, I've seen some NC Purps that I assume are Venosa and also have some detailed photos. I'll post em for comparison, they do look the same...

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North Carolina S. Purpurea for comparison:

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I'm no taxonomist, but these do kinda look the same pretty much... Especially the first two NC ones compared to the LI ones...

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And more xBeleziana: