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Post by Pingman on May 25, 2007 13:47:43 GMT
Expect to pay about $50 (or more--Check Ebay for current bids) for a plant that has mature pitchers. You might be able to find TC small ones for under $20, but expect to wait at least a year for mature pitchers. Unless of course you can find a generous member who will trade or sell you one for a great price!
Warning that these plants are very tricky. They can be very healthy, then quickly decline and die back for no apparent reason. Kind of hard to swallow if you kill a plant that cost you $50 bucks!
This is my humble experience with this fascinating plant! Peter.
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Post by quogue on Jun 1, 2007 15:23:34 GMT
Too much water and too hot temps for too long seem to be the causes of Sudden Ceph Death Syndrome from what I can gather... They do like cool temps and a winter slow-down. They don't like to be constantly water-logged, nor dried out either. Low amount of water in tray that dries between waterings. warm/hot temps year-round and over-watering seem to be the culprits that kill everyones Cephs it sounds like..
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Post by picrophyll on Jun 1, 2007 15:27:36 GMT
Cephs do best in highland conditions and the biggest killer of these plants is standing them in water. I grow my plants in with the highland Nepenthes and they get drowned each day but never water logged. I am using our tap water and try to wash the pots through well each week. Currently I have hundreds in the glasshouse and thousands in culture. Cheers Phill
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Post by Clint on Jun 1, 2007 21:55:19 GMT
Really! I thought growing in a large, tall pot in a shallow tray of water was OK if you let the tray evaporate and dry before refilling.
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Post by jgturpin on Jun 2, 2007 3:32:32 GMT
What temps and RH do you grow them at?
60 to low 70s at night low to mid 80s in the day with lots of light and, above 70% RH sound right?
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Post by jm82792 on Jun 2, 2007 7:53:10 GMT
Yay my friend at world of carnivores has some tc cephs, he may pull one off from the side for me later.
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Post by Aidan on Jun 2, 2007 12:15:47 GMT
Really! I thought growing in a large, tall pot in a shallow tray of water was OK if you let the tray evaporate and dry before refilling. It is OK.
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Post by vraev on Jun 7, 2007 22:20:57 GMT
OMG! that is insane. BTW....waht is that NICE technique to minimise stress on bare roots? Also does anyone know of a place I can get cephs to canada? Also the one I have is just growing SLOWLY. I mean really slowly. Its been a month and the pitcher has just started from a point to around 1 inch now. The lid isnt open yet. Is this normal? One month to just grow to a full size?
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Post by mabudon on Jun 9, 2007 14:09:45 GMT
Varun, they grow pretty slowly, and yours is still just a rooting cutting, you must learn patience!!
As long as it's growing, it's probably doing just fine, man!
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Post by wadave on Jul 5, 2007 5:24:23 GMT
With growing conditions I've mirrored Phill's set up:
Over head misting for one minute every hour during the summer months in the greenhouse. I've got a humidifyer set up infront of an evaporative airconditioner that is set to come on at temps over 25 deg C. I've measured temps during days that hover around 40 deg or more and the temps don't get much over 30 in the greenhouse. I would say that the humidity would stay around 40% on the worst days up to about 60 to 70%.
Perth weather is very dry and windy during the summer months and the enclosed structure of the greenhouse has been of great benefit to my cp collection.
I also use the tap water, from memory the water company said the water had about 100 - 120ppm disolved salts but I've found with overhead watering the salts get washed away constantly.
So with overhead watering it would be logical to think that higher salt levels would be tolerated by cps if the water is constantly flowing through their pots without the need for an RO setup.
I've had the greenhouse set up for about 12 months now and the cephs really love it in there. I've also got heli's, neps, pings, sarras, cobras and VFT's all of which have thrived over the last 12 months.
If you can't copy this method it makes sense to follow the advice from those who are using the tray method who allow the water to dry out for a day or two between waterings as the cephs really hate stagnant water around their roots.
I use this method in my small terrarium containing more pings, a highland nep, my pygmies and a utric. I top up with rain water and allow the bottom of the tank to dry out completely before topping up the water to the previous level. The pots never dry out and my plants love it.
In the wild cephs grow in swampy areas near the coast, and these areas slowly drain to the beach meaning the water is constantly moving. It's moving very slowly mind you but enough to bring fresh oxygenated water past the roots which prevents rot.
Some people have their cobras set up in moving water using a water pump from one of those small water feature kits that you might see on an overworked/ stressed executive's desk. This could work well for cephs too.
Dave.
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Post by quogue on Jul 19, 2007 15:18:28 GMT
Figured this thread could use a couple more pics...
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Post by trimen1000 on Jul 27, 2007 6:18:30 GMT
So with overhead watering it would be logical to think that higher salt levels would be tolerated by cps if the water is constantly flowing through their pots without the need for an RO setup. I've had the greenhouse set up for about 12 months now and the cephs really love it in there. I've also got heli's, neps, pings, sarras, cobras and VFT's all of which have thrived over the last 12 months. The one thing I would say about this is that you need to be sure to remove water and replace it with new water instead of just slowly adding water. This will remove the water that has a slightly higher mineral concentration from the system and replace it with water that has lower mineral concentration. If you just replace water that has been taken up from the plant or has evaporated then the concentration will slowly rise.
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