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Post by Aidan on Jan 9, 2012 3:05:01 GMT
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Post by mr ed on Jan 9, 2012 3:25:21 GMT
Here's a shot of a pitcher spiralling. It has gone a bit too red now and looked better when there was a more green. Oddly only one pitcher chose to spiral this year. Attachments:
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Post by mr ed on Jan 9, 2012 3:57:40 GMT
Talking of weird lids check this venosa out I nick named aristolochioides. Attachments:
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Post by mr ed on Jan 9, 2012 4:08:06 GMT
Have had this plant for 7 years and no sign of any pitcher reverting. This is the plant with flowers devoid of stigmas. Attachments:
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Post by bouncingwatermelon on Jan 9, 2012 5:05:13 GMT
The absence of a proper stigma on your 'aristolochioides' plants are interesting, although I cannot make a logical connection with the leaf morphology because the leaves seem to be quite normal except that the lids are rolled up into a funnel that sort of makes an extension of the pitcher opening.
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Post by kiwiearl on Jan 9, 2012 20:18:25 GMT
Here's a shot of a pitcher spiralling. It has gone a bit too red now and looked better when there was a more green. Oddly only one pitcher chose to spiral this year. That really is a good one!
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Post by gardenofeden on Jan 9, 2012 21:23:00 GMT
Hey Mr Ed, what's the background radiation like where you live...?
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Post by mr ed on Jan 9, 2012 22:54:15 GMT
Hey Stephen, NZ is nuclear free or though those Frenchie neighbours of yours have set a lot off in the Pacific. ;D Do you use GA3 to induce germination as I sometimes use it if I don't get the seed sown soon enough while the frosts are around and thought it may be a possible cause? Also wondered if pesticides/fungicides may be a trigger as the likes of Benlate/Benomyl can cause birth defects in humans. Still really keen to learn of any of the anomalies occurring in the wild?I guess, in the wild, with the inability to catch and digest bugs it is survival of the fittest, however both Dawin's Delight and purp Blinkie are of similar size to their seedling progeny so I would expect there should be some out there if it just a random genetic flaw.
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Post by mcmcnair on Jan 13, 2012 16:20:37 GMT
Have you tested for polyploidy? some of these seem like they might be polyploid, that or it could be viral maybe?
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Post by mr ed on Jan 21, 2012 3:58:30 GMT
No I didn't test them .... but you are welcome to some material!
I have seen viral infections in plants but only changes to the colouration and not shape, but I guess the're out there.
Judging by a lack of a reply, no one reading this thread has seen these mutations in the wild leading me to conclude they are cultivation induced!
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Post by Aidan on Jan 21, 2012 22:12:35 GMT
Judging by a lack of a reply, no one reading this thread has seen these mutations in the wild leading me to conclude they are cultivation induced! I doubt most would survive particularly successfully in their natural habitat. They would soon succumb to competition from their more normal brethren. In cultivation the oddities get molycoddled.
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Post by mcmcnair on Feb 7, 2012 2:34:00 GMT
I would love to have my own aristolochioides. That is definitely one of the coolest looking pitchers i have seen.
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Post by ICPS-bob on Feb 7, 2012 6:11:23 GMT
In cultivation the oddities get molycoddled. That is an understatement. In cultivation, the oddities are treasured, reproduced, distributed widely, and given names.
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Post by prized on Sept 23, 2012 22:29:11 GMT
I think I can contribute with some seedlings that I recently discovered. That is a S. flava var. flava x S. leucophylla Gulf Breeze pitchers are in both ways all the year. This other seedling is a S. leucophylla Lorentz Butschi clone Openpollinated, and seems to be more stable the te previous one!! Each pitcher looks exactly the same (these are 2 different pitcher, not the same in different time)
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Post by bananaman on Nov 20, 2012 21:06:19 GMT
Wow! I have not seen these in the limited populations of Sarracenia that I've seen. Though they could exist in the wild, as I've only seen one species of Sarracenia in one county of its range.
BTW, those aristolochioides purpurea are AWESOME!!! I wonder if this is more common in hybrids or in the species?
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