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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2007 4:29:10 GMT
o ok then i never have tried to visit other societies but i was planning on going to one in canada or one in australia when i get to go there but i was told by a few people that had gone to other countries and were told that were allowed to go to meetings but they werent allowed to buy plant or buy seeds thats why i thought it would cool if there was a international membership but if they do allow you then thats awesome....lol i just wish that my plants would flower so i could get some seed from them and send in the rest but.... i always seem to be doing something worng when it comes to my plants but at the same time im just learning how to grow them. ...lol
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Post by Aidan on Jul 16, 2007 14:08:18 GMT
In the same way that you can't just order plants from an international supplier without obtaining the required documentation, you can not climb onto an international flight with your luggage full of plants.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 22:42:32 GMT
In the same way that you can't just order plants from an international supplier without obtaining the required documentation, you can not climb onto an international flight with your luggage full of plants. lol i went to canada last year and tried to bring home oo lets see about 74 summer savory plants because they are very hard to get to germinate out here in redlands but they took them from me and threw them and in the trash ans i got all mad and asked what was that for and they said that the plants could be an illegal substance in the us like marijuana is....o i was so mad..... who in their right mind could mistake summer savory for marijuana!!!!!!!!
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Post by pitcherfreak on Jul 27, 2007 21:55:39 GMT
John, Just out of curiosity what sort of documentation do you need to send seed from overseas to the seedbank. Is it hard/expensive. I may have some seed you could use if you're running short if it's not too difficult/expensive.
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Post by John Brittnacher on Jul 27, 2007 23:41:22 GMT
John, Just out of curiosity what sort of documentation do you need to send seed from overseas to the seedbank. Is it hard/expensive. I may have some seed you could use if you're running short if it's not too difficult/expensive. Thanks for asking this question. I made a web page on our web site about the process. The short answer is: 1. Seeds must be clean and packeted with no more than 10 grams of seed per packet. No more than 50 packets can be included. The packets themselves should be labeled or in a plastic bag that is labeled. Expect the inspectors to want to see everything so package things accordingly. (The rules say 50 seeds OR 10 grams per packet.) 2. There should be a packing list of the contents of your package. 3. The Seed Bank manager will need to send you two mailing labels via postal mail: a green and yellow label for you to use to send the seeds to the inspection station and a white label for the inspection station to use to send the seeds on to the Seed Bank. 4. The Seed Bank manager will also send you a copy of the actual permit via postal mail. The permit must be included with the seeds. The long answer is at www.carnivorousplants.org/seedbank/ImportPermitConditions.php
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Post by Aidan on Jul 27, 2007 23:53:20 GMT
I have sent seed to US contacts a number of times under this scheme. It is a little tedious to comply but is not a difficult process.
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Post by pitcherfreak on Jul 28, 2007 5:56:44 GMT
Thanks, will go have a look in the fridge and see what's in stock and get back to you if you are interested. Should have more to spare next year.
Just as an aside if you are running out of seed at ICPS is it worth having a system like the UK society?
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Post by John Brittnacher on Jul 28, 2007 22:41:52 GMT
Just as an aside if you are running out of seed at ICPS is it worth having a system like the UK society? I have thought about ways to structure the Seed Bank differently. You can get philosophical about the American way versus the Continental way versus the Aussie way. The ICPS Seed Bank is done in a way that would be knee-jerk to an American. You save your best seeds for your friends (i.e. seed donors). If you start running out of seeds or people start gaming the system you raise prices and/or increase the number of rules. Also, I don't want seeds accumulating long term in the Seed Bank. There are seeds in the Seed Bank approaching 3 or 4 years old. They are species I think survive at least that long, but still. There are also practical issues. Right now the ICPS has 1298 members. How many does the CPS have minus the number in the USA who don't have import permits? How much of the CPS membership cost goes to cover the seed program? What I would like to do is increase the prices. The reason to do that is to increase the funds for our conservation grants. But I can't justify the increases because I have no clue (1) that most of what I send out actually is what I say it is and (2) that the seeds are viable. The real value of the seeds if they are correctly identified and viable would be at least 10 times the current price. But I am not even sure I can justify an increase to $2 per packet. All that said, though, the costs have gone up substantially after the latest changes in pricing and classification of mail in the USA. So I may have to increase the prices next year to generate enough income for our programs that must be paid for out of Seed Bank money or donations.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2007 23:23:52 GMT
2 dollars is a reasonable increase that i believe most people would be okay with....well atleast i am okay with it...sadly i guess i am not able to speak for others who may think its outragous so maybe is it possible to hold a poll or a vote to see how many people would approve of the change to 2 dollars even though it is not ultimately their decision it could help in making a decision as to wether or not to change prices.
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Post by pitcherfreak on Aug 1, 2007 0:24:07 GMT
Sounds good to me too. I wouldn't mind paying $2 US
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Post by RL7836 on Oct 12, 2007 19:26:03 GMT
Sounds good to me too. I wouldn't mind paying $2 US Agreed. $2 still sounds like a bargain.
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Post by kellykellyh on Nov 17, 2009 4:35:12 GMT
I realize I'm butting in on a rather old thread, but John, is there a way any non-seed-donating, long-distance folks can help lighten the load for you??
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