prmills
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Post by prmills on Jul 16, 2009 19:34:25 GMT
I bought my ceph about the same amount of experience. I keep it in my terrarium tank, sitting in trays of water. It's just over a year old now. I've taken 3 shoots off of it and the main plant it pouring over the 710ml yogurt container it's living in. I find that they are easy to grow and take care of personally. Plus, if you like the 'challenge', why not? Mine was from Kheen's Carnivoures for $40 CAD, worth every cent
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Post by jdallas on Jul 16, 2009 20:27:20 GMT
Cephalotus is a good example of a plant that once you find the sweet spot of what it likes isn't too challenging. Not being too wet and not too hot being the most important. Violate those rules very long, and you might as well reserve a spot on the compost pile for them. They are not very forgiving of mistakes the way Nepenthes and Sarracenia are.
As far as price, I make no apologies for what we charge for Cephalotus. They are slow to propagate and require more fussing over in a nursery setting. Better deals are often to be found through private parties, just as lemons are also. We barter, trade, purchase from private parties routinely.
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Post by fredg on Jul 16, 2009 22:01:56 GMT
Cephalotus is a good example of a plant that once you find the sweet spot of what it likes isn't too challenging. Not being too wet and not too hot being the most important. Violate those rules very long, and you might as well reserve a spot on the compost pile for them. What is too wet? My pots sit in 2" of water.
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Post by jdallas on Jul 17, 2009 1:33:06 GMT
We've found that if the pots sit in water for long periods the risk of roots rotting is great. We don't sit our pots in water at all anymore. We just top water them, hence the higher maintenance. If you have plants in large pots, at least six inch (15cm) or larger, a little water in a tray is usually fine. I like to let it use the water up before adding more. The larger the pot for Cephalotus, the better. We also have them in section of our Nepenthes house that is shielded from afternoon sun.
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Post by fredg on Jul 17, 2009 12:11:20 GMT
Very interesting. I find that Cephalotus doesn't mind being wet in the least. I have small pots, 3", in 2" of water and they don't mind a bit. 3" pot showing an algae 'tide mark' As I have stated before I have kept my Cephalotus in water for up to 20 months at a stretch without any root rot. I have also had new crowns growing from drain holes whilst under water. This is the same pot as shown above, the new crowns growing from this leaf cutting formed below the water level.
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Post by jdallas on Jul 17, 2009 15:04:50 GMT
Wow Fred! I'm impressed. What's your soil media? You must be doing something the rest of us are not that keeping them happy. What are your temperatures like in the summer?
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Post by fredg on Jul 17, 2009 18:04:56 GMT
What's your soil media? What are your temperatures like in the summer? I have them a variety of soil mixes. 1) Peat / sand / gravel 2 : 1 : 1 2) Peat / perlite 2 : 1 3) Living sphagnum There's probably a few more, some are very old mixes as Cephalotus are not repotted too often once they get some size on. My oldest pots must be over 20 years old now as my oldest plant is 25 years old Temperatures are occasionally in excess of 100ºF in summer on a sunny day dropping to about 60ºF at night. Ths is not constant though due to the vagaries of the UK weather, the 100ºF would be only for a few days. The lean-to greenhouse they are in is on a NW facing wall so there is no direct sunlight on the plants until the afternoon. Cephalotus growing in live sphagnum Ignore the spiderling gossamer ;D These pitchers are not small.
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Post by sarracenialover on Jul 17, 2009 19:03:06 GMT
I'm sure this is a great example of individual experimentation of Cephalotus. As fredg proves, it's possible to grow them in deeper water levels, but it's always slightly different for each person and involves many factors such as media, pot size, and atmospheric conditions. That is why for beginnners, it is probably wise to grow a ceph without a tray and after a few years of successful growing and propagation to experiment with many plants.
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Post by fredg on Jul 17, 2009 19:28:54 GMT
That is why for beginners, it is probably wise to grow a ceph without a tray and after a few years of successful growing and propagation to experiment with many plants. This is where I have a problem. I have never grown Cephalotus any other way but wet. It doesn't cause a problem for me as as I said I still have my very first Cephalotus, Big Boy, after 25 years. I do wonder just how many beginners kill their plants by having them too dry or with irregular watering. I see from the posts on here that many are afraid to let water anywhere near their pots. Perhaps for beginners a long tom pot and perhaps 1" of water at the base and a fast draining medium would be a good place to start. That would keep the moisture level fairly constant.
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Post by BRiiZi on Jul 20, 2009 19:34:08 GMT
jdallas, i'm sorry if offensed u . i just couldn't get it the way i wanted it . the size its coming is the size of a dime. i just wanted it that way. so now u see that its not the price just the size. ieat100s
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Post by justjack on Jul 25, 2009 18:46:20 GMT
Even if it was the price he's prolly not offended. He says he does the same and everyone likes a good deal.
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Post by BRiiZi on Jul 30, 2009 15:56:52 GMT
i finally got it 2 minutes ago and its the size of a qaurter when i was expecting a dime sized plant . thank u glider14!
ieat100s ;D
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Post by glider14 on Aug 2, 2009 23:38:00 GMT
no problem! take good care of it and PM me with any concerns.
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Post by BRiiZi on Aug 10, 2009 22:55:30 GMT
u like ? thanks again , glider14
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Post by sarracenialover on Aug 11, 2009 4:58:54 GMT
NOt bad looking. Good luck with it.
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