Heliamphora is a death.

[carnivor]

I would like to ask for your help that let more not be my loss like this.
sphagnum+peat+perlit they are in a mix.In daytime 22-24 celsius night 16-18celsius 70-80% humidity breast.What did I ruin?




I say thank you for the help.

Best regards.


Tamás

[kby]

Well, kinda hard to tell post-mortem. They look awfully dry as does the medium, but is that before or after? Did it happen quickly or slowly (over what period of time did the plants decline)? How long had you had them and did they just decline since you got them or this happened suddenly after looking well for several months including growth?

Of the things you mention:
a lot of peat I don't like as much especially for younger plants. Something more open. Live sphagnum seems good as long as it doesn't break down below the surface; I've gone to perlite/long-fiber dead sphagnum with topdressing of live. But I do have at least one plant in a more "standard coastal" kinda mix with more peat perlite sand, but it's the one I've had for a decade and is now in an 8" pot. Smaller ones tend to rot slowly under my conditions with heavier media that doesn't drain well. But they have to be watered a lot and I don't stand them in water. You can probably stand them in water if the pots are deep.

Temps look OK, but how much light?

I like higher humidity, but that range doesn't sound bad as long as they are acclimated to it.

Water quality? Standard RO is OK.
-kby

Water q

[carnivor]

Hi kby.

This process took place under 3 weeks rather quickly since I got to them. the sphagnum 80% the peat 10% the perlite 10% in the soil. I water them with rain. The lighting: sylvania gro lux.
Are they salvageable yet according to you?
There is something your idea what make with them?

Thanks.


Tamás

[kby]

I have heard they can come back from the roots, although I have not had much luck with that; usually for me by that point they are gone. I'd start a little slower next time; maybe with a hybrid. The sylvania's themselves are fine but the quantity of light is the issue, so how many tubes, their rating/size, and the distance between the lights and the plants are important. It's hard to tell what might have been the issue by this point. I know, like everyone else, I hate putting up pics of things that are failing, but it's harder to tell what happened once things have failed.e It sounds like they just never made it through being transplanted, so it would also be important to know how different the conditions were where they came from and how were they transported to you (already potted, bare root, etc.).-kby

[carnivor]

The conditions were similar, you arrive with a bare root sphagnummal his root was covered up.

[kby]

I meant what were they growing in before they were shipped to you? If it's a non-local nursery, you probably won't know, but it wouldn't hurt to ask;if it was a grower you knew it would presumably be easier to ask and might be more relevant.-kby

[carnivor]

Wistuba they came. We plucked leaves from much. But I did not realize the problem that from what may be this. I say thank you for it how you helped.

[av8tor1]

You might try a slower transition to your specific growing conditions. It seems as though the Wistuba clones are still a little tender when they arrive.

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HTH's
Av

[kby]

OK, I've ordered all of mine from Andreas. They are normally OK and should be better for EU since the distance is shorter. I do tend to have better luck getting things he's NOT shipping for the first time (because they are usually smaller). Plants that start out bigger (adult form pitchers) are usually a lot easier than ones that don't, even if they revert to juveniles for a while.-kby

[kby]

I checked your temps again. You could go a little warmer in the day (~27C) and it would be nice to go a little cooler at night (12-13C). However, with the current temps they should be fine although maybe a bit slower growing.

[carnivor]

I put them into a sack, separate florárium. I try to carry the night temperature below. We notice it will be. I report on the developments then. I say thank you for the many good councils.

[brokken]

Maybe your water? Are you using the water for other CPs with no problems?

[carnivor]

I water the rest of my plants with rainwater, for them nothing their trouble.