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Post by w6rbk on Apr 25, 2010 3:57:57 GMT
I am new to the world of Nepenthes and received one which I believe is a Nepenthes Hirsuta based on photographs I have seen in The Savage Garden. My problem is it has stopped growing pitchers. It has been growing leaves like crazy but the pitchers shrivel up and fall off. Conditions: 1) Indoor terrarium, misted daily with dw, inside with coolest temp above 17 C 2) repotted last year into a spaghnum-vermiculite-sand mix 3) I have misted with a very diluted solution of Maxsea following the directions from California Carnivores for CPs 4) No direct sunlight, under a red/blue LED light I use for my other plants A photograph is attached for reference Attachments:
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Post by Dave Evans on Apr 25, 2010 6:38:46 GMT
Not sure, when nep's don't pitcher, the first thing is usually the light is too low... This species, if it is hirsuta, is an intermediate. It likes it warm during the day and a little cool at night.
On the other hand, it might not like the vermiculite.
I wouldn't describe N. hirsuta or N. hispida as beginner plants, they can be temperamental. Perhaps, repot it into a soil with sphagnum, perlite, cedar mulch (remove any large pieces) and a little peat moss. A small pinch of limestone wouldn't be a bad idea either.
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Post by w6rbk on Apr 25, 2010 11:35:08 GMT
Thanks very much for the quick response. I can change the light immediately, will plan to try repotting this weekend. It was very impressive when it had pitchers so I'd hate to lose it.
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Post by taz6122 on May 1, 2010 2:21:52 GMT
I would also add it doesn't need misting in a terrarium.
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Post by w6rbk on May 4, 2010 3:46:12 GMT
Thanks Taz, the thing has actually grown so large I can't keep it covered in the terrarium any more. I'm going to try transplanting it into a larger pot with the mix Dave suggested and see what happens. It is growing leaves like crazy just no traps anymore.
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Post by zhilin on May 4, 2010 6:28:34 GMT
I don't know whether the reason of no pitchering is due to the use of MaxSea. In another forum, some people say the result of MaxSea is crazily growing leaves but no pitchers, similar as you described ("growing leaves like crazy but the pitchers shrivel up and fall off"). There is a hot argument on the use of MaxSea. Some people also say the use of MaxSea has best result (induce pitchering). For me, I apply the MaxSea only on those very tiny nepenthes, because I hope the young neps grow quickly, and I don't care about whether they pitcher. But I never use the MaxSea on those big neps which have showed beautiful pitchers. Since I've used the MaxSea for only 1 month, I can't tell whether it induces pitchering or not. I can only say that it is very good for the growth of young neps. My suggestion is: if the above people's suggestions do not work (such as increase the light), then stop the use of MaxSea or reduce the strength of MaxSea and see the result.
If the plant starts to pitcher in the future, come here to tell us what you do for it.
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Post by Not a Number on May 4, 2010 19:20:37 GMT
According to a few of the Nepenthes growers in the LACPS, Nepenthes if well fertilized will stop growing pitchers. They say it is not uncommon for you to come across Nepenthes without pitchers in nurseries because they have been treated as any other tropical plant and were fertilized regularly.
How often and how much fertilizer are you applying?
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Post by w6rbk on May 4, 2010 23:43:51 GMT
I have diluted down to the recommendation for CPs, 1 teaspoon per gallon and mist the surface of the leaves with it ever two weeks. I guess I'll transplant and cut off the fertilizer to see if it starts pitchering again.
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Post by manders on May 14, 2010 16:43:43 GMT
I find hirsuta to be an easy windowsill type plant, potted in peat and perlite. However, its hard to see from the photo but i don't think that's a hirsuta, it doesn't look hirsute enough, maybe a better photo would help.
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Post by w6rbk on May 17, 2010 13:05:42 GMT
Thanks, I'll try to take some clearer pictures on the weekend and post again. I repotted in a mixture of perlite, peat, a little spaghnum, charcoal and sand (all I could get locally here in Yokohama). The thing looks incredibly healthy, just no pitchers.
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Post by manders on May 18, 2010 21:39:24 GMT
From the photo I would hazard a guess and say it might just be a macrovulgaris, either both of those species do prefer a little humidity to pitcher. Seem to remebervjapan is both hot and humid in the summer so you should see pitchers fairly soon.
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Post by w6rbk on May 21, 2010 23:22:41 GMT
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Post by manders on May 26, 2010 20:57:17 GMT
Definately not a hirsuta! Could still be a macrovulgaris, but also looks like some maxima hybrids, sorry i can't give a more positive I'd.
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Post by Dave Evans on May 28, 2010 0:54:25 GMT
Well, it isn't any species is the insignis group... You'll have to let it grow out some more so it can develop some diagnostic features for an ID.
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Post by w6rbk on May 28, 2010 8:14:04 GMT
Okay, thank you for trying. Hopefully I'll get some pitchers soon so we can corner this rascal and make it fess up its identify
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